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On this 1673 crown, it looks very much like the I on the edge die (?) was punched over an O. Would you agree, or do you think this effect is caused by fatigue ? I don't really know how the edge inscription was applied to these coins - information would be much appreciated as a casual Google hasn't lead me anywhere.
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On 4/24/2019 at 8:34 PM, HistoricCoinage said:Enjoy the description on this beauty.
To me this looks like the front part of a Victorian button...I have sometimes found similar in bulk lots of coins bought from eBay or auction. £10 is not so ridiculous an asking price...but I like "the Romans left us with a legal system" !!
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15 hours ago, Paddy said:Others have probably found this already, but in case you haven't, their website does now have comprehensive circulation figures for decimal coins up to 2017 - all denominations. Their own search engine doesn't seem to find it well so here is the link:
https://www.royalmint.com/currency/uk-currency/mintages/
Interesting to look through. Note that the 1981 10p has a mintage of 3,487,000... this is a much more difficult coin to get in mint state than those numbers suggest ! I wonder if most of the mintage were dated 1980.
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I've just filed a report to Action Fraud, let's see what happens.
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39 minutes ago, Diaconis said:Great aren't they.😀
It's the only auction house where I actually keep the packaging.
I think this is the packaging you are referring to?
A pound of packaging to ship a 5 gram shilling, quality.
Yes, exactly what I was referring to.
I like the bulkiness of the packaging because it hides the potential value of the contents ! I always cringe a bit when I buy a higher value coin off eBay and they send it special delivery yet you can feel it through the bubble mailer.
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On 4/4/2019 at 3:37 PM, Diaconis said:I must say that, having purchased several coins from them them in the past, their packaging and service is also second to none.
I concur - particularly like the custom large card boxes they ship multiple purchases in. The last one I got had a huge photo of a German New Guinea coin - almost more beautiful than what was inside !
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1 hour ago, Michael-Roo said:PS: Actually, looking at it again, your coin may be a decent contemporary counterfeit. There are a several described as 'fish lips' portrait, and yours possibly fits the bill (or should that be fits the lips).
Any opinions regarding this are welcomed.
Weight is 4.56 grams, which seems a bit heavy for a fake farthing in my experience. But the lips do look a bit "fishy" so I'm questioning it myself.
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13 minutes ago, Michael-Roo said:There's something there with the 3, but the reverse die doesn't match Cooke's 364.
364: first leg of the second N points to the wrist. End of spear points to the one. There is a space between the two sevens, etc.
Yes - you're right. I'm still something of a novice with these varieties - didn't notice the displacement of the legend on mine. On my coin, it does look like a 3 over 7 to me in hand. At least I think I can see the top left serif of the 7 on the top left of the 3 of the date.
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I've replied to your other thread in the World Coins Forum, but in case anyone's watching this, this coin is an "Angel Penny" (Engelspfennig) of Strasbourg, c. 1300; Bonhoff 1750.
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On 4/14/2019 at 4:46 PM, SRSNUM said:
This coin is an Engelspfennig of the Bishopric of Strasbourg, circa 1300. It's listed in "German Coins" by Bonhoff as number 1750.
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Hello all.
I picked up this farthing recently. It looks like an unambiguous 3/7 overdate on the last numeral, with the same reverse die as Colin Cooke #364 (look at the open topped B in BRITANNIA). However, the obverse die has a stop after Rex, unlike Colin Cooke's example. Is this die pairing known ? Any information would be much appreciated - I've looked through recent auction results without any success.
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17 hours ago, 1949threepence said:I've seen them, and sometimes wondered precisely what criteria NGC use in determining whether a coin is MS65. I know they reject them if they've got verdigris, but fingerprints? who knows.
Of course, there's fingerprints and fingerprints. Some are much more obvious than others. I always assume they were made shortly after minting. But of course, they might be the result of more recent careless handling.
There are indeed fingerprints and fingerprints. I have a pattern 100 francs in silver from Monaco (1950), graded MS65 by NGC. It has a minor fingerprint on the reverse which doesn't really affect eye appeal; giving it a top grade in a slab seems fair. The bun penny I'm talking about had a subdued finger print on Victoria's face which was clear enough that you could probably use it in a criminal investigation; you had to hold it to the light in order to see the portrait properly at all. I think a coin like that would be better off toned brown than "fully lustrous" with such ugly contact marks. But the grading company didn't care.
Regarding the MS65 criteria...all that PCGS says is "Above average strike with minor marks or hairlines, mostly out of focal areas". I think a fingerprint is treated as a minor handling mark...irrespective of the actual effect on the eye appeal of the coin.
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6 hours ago, jelida said:Is there really a market? Talk about the fool and his money....
There honestly is. I know collectors stateside who will pay hundreds of dollars for common date George V coins slabbed at MS65 or above, when they only book £20 in Spinks in BU.
I think most of these people collect the numbers on the slab rather than the actual coin because a lot of these "MS65" coins have serious issues e.g. dipped, artificial toning and are really not gem specimens compared to what you could pick up at a UK coin fair. I've even seen a "MS65" bun penny with a noticeable finger print on Victoria's face ! People get pretty defensive though when you point it out, there's a lot of faith in the slabbing companies to pick up cleaning etc. despite the fact that both PCGS and NGC run
cleaningahem...conservation companies themselves.I don't mind TPGs too much, as they're really valuable in fields where there is a lot of forgery going on - it would be difficult to collect rare early 20th century Chinese coins without them, for example. But you know there's something going wrong when coins with mintages in the millions, and thousands of pristine examples available to collectors are going for top dollar.
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4 hours ago, oldcopper said:Just checked the other examples - as expected the 2 9's aren't touching so yours is from a different die and thus is more doubtful as a BRITAN-IA.
Yeah - I doubt there are two "BRITAN-IA" dies out there somewhere...although I guess you can never know with the poor quality of the copper coinage at the time. Thank you for the thorough analysis. I'm very happy to have picked up the 1694 without paying much for it.
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44 minutes ago, Rob said:Is there any way to see it without clicking on links to access imgur, i.e can you not just post a picture in the normal way?
Here you go - just can't resize pictures on my phone.
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8 hours ago, oldcopper said:I've seen 4 of these 1699 BRITAN IA's - the Baldwins late 2000's sale, Mark Rasmussen list 7, SNC 1976 and a worn one sold recently by DNW in a mixed lot. DNW have also sold 2 others previously which were in no way missing the second N! (whoops!) but the more recent one was genuine. There is a characteristic flaw on the right hand side of the upright of the T - this is present on 3 of the above but not, surprisingly, on the Mark Rasmussen coin which is from the same dies on careful comparison. I think Mark's coin must have been struck earlier before the die flaw developed.
Here's my suspect 1699 BRITAN IA halfpenny - was very dubious to me before due to the wear but it does seem to have a "flaw on the right hand sight of the upright of the T" so let me know what you think !
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51 minutes ago, Rob said:My personal view is that the jury must be out on any BRITANIA until a well struck up head and surrounding area is seen. Every one I have seen is weak at this point.
That's interesting to know. I wonder if there is a decent one in a museum collection other than the BM...there are trays and trays of 17th century halfpennies in the Ashmolean.
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While we're on this topic, do either of you possess the elusive 1699 halfpenny with the BRITANIA legend error ? I have an extremely worn 1699 halfpenny with no trace of the second N, but I'm a bit dubious because Britannia's head isn't in great shape either. It would be interesting to compare location of the dots in the legend. The only supposed example I can find online is at https://collections.museumvictoria.com.au/items/52753 and this appears to be a misattribution.
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3 minutes ago, Rob said:I've got the Nicholson coin. I remember the Peck coin going through DNW about 10 or 12 years ago. It sticks in my mind as being orders of magnitude better than mine. I need to dig up the info. And vaguely recall another one in DNW at the end of last year. That isn't exhaustive.
This is the example sold at DNW recently, ex George Bates. Surprised it didn't sell for more with that portrait ! Would personally grade better than VF-...
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2 minutes ago, Michael-Roo said:This one is as rare as hen's teeth.
Here's mine own for comparison. Not great, but the best I found/was willing to pay for in the past 20 years.
Comparing this with your imgur photos I think, yes, we can determine a match.
That looks like an exact die match !
Now I see that all of the reverse As are unbarred...not clear from my terrible example.
Do you think this is just a later die state of coin 052 in the Basil Nicholson collection ? (http://www.colincooke.com/collections/nicholson_part1.html)
The legend looks pretty much identical but the 4 of the date has a partial bar.
If so this is indeed an extremely rare coin...Peck knew of two, so we're looking at 5+ examples now ?
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I picked this coin up for a pound or two the other weekend and noticed afterwards that the reverse legend appears to have A/I in BRITANNIA. The 4 of the date is also unbarred despite being very bold. Caveat is that the coin's in poor condition. What do you think ?
Photographs: https://imgur.com/a/WAxBjXA
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Sold a while back, but what's going on here ? It's not even a good example, look at all the rim damage on the reverse.
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14 hours ago, Coin#addict said:Do these hammered coins look like they were minted yesterday? The seller has quite a few for sale.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HAMMERED-SILVER-MEDIEVAL-COIN/372630617715?redirect=mobile
This coin is almost certainly genuine. I have a few of this issue and they pretty much always look like this, although you occasionally see them with a nice gold tone. Eastern Polish/Belorussian soil is very acidic, so uncleaned examples from soil often have ugly patina which is better lost IMO. As per mrbadexample they were minted in the millions and can be bought wholesale for a few quid each.
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Here's my "example" - been sitting on the fence on this one for a while. Like to think it's the variety !