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JLS

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  1. Looking at it again in hand the right annulet looks broken - the left one looks closed, the apparent break in the photo seems to come from a weak strike. Do you know if this is a definite diagnostic for these ?
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    Ebay's Worst Offerings

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-1694-William-Mary-Gold-Half-Guinea/372830642302 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-ANNE-1702-1714-SHILLING-RARE-SOLID-Silver-COIN-E-Mark/372830638965 I know there are a lot of gullible bidders on eBay, but this really takes the cake...
  3. JLS

    Law of contract - offer for sale

    Ignoring the delicate aspects of contract law, the problem you're going to have is that you have no damages if you immediately receive a refund. You'd have to sue for specific performance of the contract. But this is entirely up to the discretion of the court, and they almost certainly would find demanding specific performance unreasonable under the circumstances. There's a lot of precedent for specific performance as a remedy in the case of land sales where one party backs out, but in this situation, where the seller did not intend to offer the item at the price, the buyer would be treated by the court as acting in bad faith, and the "unclean hands" doctrine would prevent them from obtaining specific performance. If the seller meant to ludicrously overprice the item, then it would be more complex - but in the case of a coin obviously worth £1250 offered for £125, I think you wouldn't get anywhere at all. Which is how it should be really !
  4. It's not a terribly well researched piece. The date is presumed to correspond to the date of actual issue, especially because it's the copper penny format. Definitely pre-1865 because it's in Neumann, Freudenthal also collected one which is now in the BM (Accession: 1870,0507.1404). John Clark personally owned the business, and a John Clark of 447 Strand received British patent GB 1860/2735, granted on 7 November 1860, for an outdoor shop lamp. He also received a further patent on the same subject matter in 1861. I haven't found details of Clark in any directories, but I haven't searched particularly exhaustively. It looks like the 450 Strand shop was closed by 1855; see the attached advertisement. Mitchener suggests that W.J. Taylor manufactured it, but that's really a guess. It's a fairly scarce piece in any condition, and may not exist in very high grades - I've never seen a true EF specimen, let alone mint state with lustre. References: Neumann 23343, Mitchener (2007) 7919
  5. This is very useful with certain tokens in D&H - often when the plate coin is in terrible condition, there are few if any better to be found.
  6. Is the first A of GRATIA unbarred or is that just the photograph ?
  7. A new acquisition - I've always loved the legends on this token. The story is that Bladud, decendent of Aeneas' companion Brutus, was a leper who kept a herd of leprous pigs, and could not become king of the Britons because of his leprosy. However, the pigs were miraculously cured by bathing in the waters of the Bath spring, as was Bladud, who returned to found the city after his coronation. To me, the token is conservatively VF+ but with a big patch on lustre on the bottom half of the obverse which I haven't captured very successfully in my photos.
  8. Provenance is pretty important to me as I collect the unofficial farthing series. In particular, I'm prepared to pay a lot more for examples in the Scottish series if its a plate coin in D&H, and in the English series happy to pay a premium for pieces from the Cokayne, Allen, Brodie collections etc. With very common tokens it can be more fun to own a mediocre piece with provenance going back to 1905 than an overpriced minty one. Many of the rare tokens in the series only exist in poor grade, think VG or Fine at best, so when selecting an example for a collection often there's little choice with respect to condition, and therefore an example with good provenance is preferable to me. I like buying 18th century tokens with inked in collector's numbers, because I don't really consider this "damage" even the provenance is untraceable at the moment. They may hold interesting provenance information accessible in the future, if only to future generations of collectors.
  9. Not listed in D&H, Withers etc. In lead - of Scottish origin, likely from the NW. Obverse: JENNAT FRUIT SHOP in two curved lines Reverse: TEA DEALER
  10. Not a detector find as far as I know. No tell-tale marks on the edge either, although I imagine the manufacture was similar to that of a cloth seal - squeezed rather than struck ! Would be interested to see photos of your bag seals if you've taken any; I have a few 18th century English ones but nothing with this style of lettering which is fairly distinctive for Scottish tokens of the late 18th century/early 19th century.
  11. JLS

    Great investment

    Someone has to have an odd 200,000 Kew gardens 50 pences somewhere....
  12. JLS

    Ebay's Worst Offerings

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321547961434 What's up with this chancer ? Not a rare coin in mint state, even with the silly slabbed grade I can't imagine it's worth more than around £100. The odd thing about the seller is that they have some reasonably good quality coins, including an uncirculated George II halfpenny, although all in slabs with silly prices.
  13. JLS

    Salutary lesson for beginners

    The thing about early hammered prices is that they were a lot higher relative to milled issues and later hammered coins back in the 1970s. If you look at the Seaby prices for the rarer Norman issues they’ve not gone up much since then once inflation is figured in. Definitely more expensive now than ten years ago but playing catch-up.
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    Salutary lesson for beginners

    Yeah - for early milled, Fine coins have done perfectly well. I have a good group of pre-1816 coins I bought as a teenager (c. 2005 - 10) at retail prices, all in the best grade I could afford at the time (mostly VG to aVF), and most would be a steal in today's market, with the exception of the 1689/1690 halfcrown varieties which were probably overpriced in lower grades back then. The price rises for some of the copper seems absurd - doesn't seem to be possible to get a decent Charles II halfpenny for less than around £200 now-days, despite what the Spink prices suggest. The token market is also different. Common 18th century halfpennies which were only worth a few quid in low grades ten years ago now go for £5 - 10 on eBay easily. With my current collections I try not to settle for anything less than VF+ coins/tokens for common issues. With rarities, anything goes.
  15. I have a bit of a sideline collection right now of commercial countermarks on 19th century coinage. As well as all the usual Pears Soap and Lloyd's newspaper ones there are quite a few which are hard to identify. Anyone got any clues on this one ? The B-B in a triangle is pretty distinctive but I'm struggling to place it myself.
  16. JLS

    BREXIT 50P

    I'd expect the Royal Mint Museum and the British museum will end up with some... Given how common mint sports etc. are I imagine there are also quite a few in the possession of mint workers...
  17. Probably - the question is from where ! The lettering style looks late 18th century or early 19th century to me but otherwise there don't seem to be many clues...
  18. 1698 halfcrown - someone at the mint was not happy with the original strike on this one; they got the portrait on it the second time around !
  19. I think longer auction times (a month ?) would be essential in an eBay competitor site in the early days in order to drive up viewership. Another thing which could be really advantageous to let everyone know about a new site would be if listings were indexed by Numisbids - they do include some auctions with lots of low value lots (e.g. WCN's weekly auctions), so it may be possible without compromising too much on seller fees. A really good category tree to allow easy sorting of lots could then be available through the Numisbids interface. I do think something an alternative wouldn't be able to beat eBay on is the attractiveness of the £1 fixed fee listings for valuable items - especially with gold coins of relatively low numismatic value, there are few better sales options. Having said that, this isn't available to business sellers and so if the focus was attracting dealers who wanted to part with excess stock etc. this wouldn't necessarily be an issue.
  20. JLS

    Ebay's Worst Offerings

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1877-Victoria-penny-Nice-Condition/254187797915 The rare 1877 old head penny in "nice" condition.
  21. JLS

    Ebay's Worst Offerings

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Old-Coin-Looks-Like-It-Could-Be-Julia-Ceasar/113926075513? "Could be Julia Ceasar". The Swedish actress notorious for playing crusty old crones ? Vendor will be in for surprise if they ever see the Shakespeare...
  22. Yes, I was comparing to my uncirculated 1913 penny; strike on Britannia is generally much better except for the head which is much stronger on the 1913 piece ? Not sure how much wartime affected production standards on these though, no expert on the series.
  23. Not normally one for penny varieties, but this was so nice I couldn't resist...
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