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    Another Putin critic died after falling out of a window

    Rebecca Cohen
    Tue, 27 December 2022 at 3:34 pm GMT·2-min read
     
     
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    • Vladimir Putin
      Vladimir Putin
      President of Russia (1999–2008, 2012–present)
     
     
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    Russian President Vladimir Putin arrives to the welcoming ceremony in Yerevan, Armenia, on November 23, 2022.Contributor/Getty Images
    • A second Vladimir Putin critic has died after falling from a hotel window.

    • Pavel Antov, 65, died Sunday in India just days after celebrating his 65th birthday.

    • A June WhatsApp message linked to Antov's account was seen as critical of Putin's war in Ukraine.

    A second critic of Vladimir Putin died Sunday after reportedly falling out of a window, Russian media outlet TASS reported.

    According to reports, Pavel Antov fell from a hotel window in Rayagada, India, just days after celebrating his 65th birthday. He was visiting the state of Odisha in eastern India.

    Antov was the chairman of the Committee on Agrarian Policy, Nature Management and Ecology of the Legislative Assembly of the Vladimir Region and was well known in the region, according to TASS.

    "Our colleague, a successful entrepreneur, philanthropist Pavel Antov passed away," Vice Speaker of the Regional Parliament Vyacheslav Kartukhin said on his Telegram channel, TASS reported. "On behalf of the deputies of the United Russia faction, I express my deep condolences to relatives and friends."

    The speaker of the legislative assembly, Vladimir Kiselyov, called Antov's death a "difficult and irreparable loss" in a statement on the website of the regional parliament, TASS reported

    These  people have no imagination


  1. On 12/25/2022 at 10:18 AM, 1949threepence said:

    With regard to coin fairs, auctions and the like, another factor to be taken into consideration is how expensive the hobby can be. Older people tend to be the ones with the spare cash, hence you probably won't see many young people there as they just can't afford it. I wouldn't mind betting that was also the case 50 years ago.   

    Well young folks these days would be far better off concentrateing on putting a roof over their heads than obtaining a coin collection , so I see their point


  2. I somhow suspect that the lauer family were coin producers for quite a while the original father passing his knowlage on to his son etc .

    The early lauer coin were counters till about the year 1870 "To hanover" etc ,when the younger son took over he also had new coin producing machines that produced smaller and  unusual coins never produced b4, that caught the imagination of the public all over europe , these are the most common pieces found today

    If you think about it this forum will also be a legacy for coin collectors (as long as it's kept going) it would be nice to have a forum on model coins but the number of fans is limited so  it might never happen, this is the nearest we might get.

     


  3. 21 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    Oh I found one of those 1830 QUEN cumberberlands reasonable but yours is of much higher quality .  I think the Lauer is there below the bust but it has not arrived yet 

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    You can always upgrade in the future - I am sure the Lauer will be there


  4. 15 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    the problem with leaving a collection of coins is that you have to work for years ahead to write all the notes so that some unscrupulous collector lies and cheats because let's face it 99% of the time only 1% know the difference between an open 3 or an N over Z or an B over an R.  I have tried to find someone on the charity to teach but no one is interested so the only thing is to write a lot 

    and thank goodness you do


  5. Rogers book is sadly missing from my collection I really would love a copy and it keeps its value when you want to sell it on .

    I would agree a website would be best , but it's working out that it does not leave you out of pocket thats the hard thing

     


  6. Looking through com listings on ebay I found

    204153815779
     

    Item specifics

    Item not identified as the wrong spelling fetched around £25 in postage , coin in nothing like the same grade as mine - I am sure it could have gone higher.


  7. The european lauer pieces are a never ending subject with new designs being found all the time - I would expect the german pieces to have been well reserched locally over many years but a lot of the others were probably made in low quantities and many were lost in the first and second world wars , I would have expected the richer economies of europe, ie, france and belgium and germany to have fallen for these coins very quickly others like portugal and spain might have been less profitable so were overlooked , they could also have been used as dolls house money for posh kids rather than family keepsakes like they were in the uk.


  8. In my opinion its a really hard job seperating joseph moore coins from many many makers of tokens-jettons-counters whatever you call them the production of these just exploded from about 1850 onwards in birmingham and to a lesser extent London, the lauer coins are a diferent matter as few makers seemed to copy what they did .

    By the way have you got the lauer QUEN VICTORIA  to hanover token dr larry ? I picked one up in birmingham for the usual £1 about six months ago, I was dead chuffed to buy it as its quite an embarasing thing to do having QUEN for QUEEN in the legend .

    It has Lauer on the queens breast so you can tell it's a german import.

    If you need anymore information just google it and you should find it .

    And yes it's in A/unc condition as well as the scan proves

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  9. You are right it could be a pendant it has a reeded edge and could have been coated in brass but it has come off - I really dont know anything for certain about this coin - there again thats one of the great things about collecting these coins you are never sure where they have come from...


  10. 17 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    a bargain well done , good value for money so you have made a potential profit of about £15  they seem to be selling for about that these days.  

    Wow did not know that.

    The model mille is not mine though i wish it was , I lifted the picture off the internet - i think its about the best i have ever seen mine grades about nvf


  11. 7 minutes ago, DrLarry said:

    yes I certainly didn't it was in with some other stuff I think ....it is surprising though even in the last 5 years the prices have been creeping up on rare issues

    Some of the stuff I have picked up over the years is certainly a lot more in demand , but its a small but growing market a lot of the collectors from the seventies that collected just as an interest have much more knowlege so people are less willing to let the more interesting item go for a song .

    By the way do you have a joseph moore quarter sov?

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  12. Sorry but I could not justify paying around £40 for one of those george v coins they are simply a bit poor for that sort of money , about £12 might be right , I surpose they are really rare though.


  13. 3 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

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    The overriding principle in cases such as White's should have at their core, the fact that the incidents are not of the householder's making, and reaction is often based on fear, emotion, panic and sheer survival instinct. 

    In White's case, the fact that he's suffered a far worse life punishment than the criminals who targeted him is utterly appalling, which is why he's attracted so much sympathy from the general public.

    Ahhh but did it get him a lenient sentence?

    The answer is no

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