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  1. On 11/18/2022 at 9:29 PM, 1949threepence said:

    Great film, shot in colour at a time when they were mostly black and white.

    One of my John Huntley videos, "Steam on 35mm 1" features some great railway out takes shot on the Camerton branch of the now closed "Somerset & Dorset joint railway"

     

    Hope they had plenty pills as well , if so it might not have closed down in the sixties and been very popular with hippies .That beeching had no soul

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  2. 29 minutes ago, DrLarry said:

    I think in terms of total numbers we are likely only dealing with no more than 4 or 5 examples surviving that are known.  Did you share your s with him when he was writing because the one in the image in the book is an uncirculated one.

    I would say probably 30-60  I don't think there are less than 10

    My example anyway

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  3. 20 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    are those R's instead of E's ?  I am trying to think where I have placed my model coins....  my gothic copper ones as above are both 1848 I had not realised there was an 1849 

    Definately E in both E

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  4. The answer to the "Albert " coin might be quite simple Albert was given the title "Prince consort" in the middle of 1857 so the "albert" coin was possably an early version before he was titled that of course means all the rest were post  summer 1857.

    How rotten is this country giving him this title  so late

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  5. 4 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    I think as you also showed the queens Scent Box  set I thought it might be a good idea to share some of the other Royal Family sets  too.  There appear to be many more variations than listed in Rogers Section 06 # 270 to 278.  Most of the differences are in the design of the portraits.  I found a set recently with the rare ALBERT without the PRINCE I am assuming that the set in a complete set so may help with this issue.  I have found the VICTORIA without the REG but it was not associated with a set so I cannot verify what was issued with it.  As I have shown above the design of the WINDSOR CASTLE BOX has four or more variations assumably had various issues associated with them .  

    Rogers #271 and # 270 a.  10.5 mm 

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    I too have a single ALBERT piece not sure how rare it is but there are at least two existing mine is in much better grade than yours though

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  6. I am pretty sure my 1902 hairy head farthing is copper coated iron but its in such great nick I dont fancy scratching it to find out.

    Sounds like rogers spotted the farthing specialist 1849 quarter farthing too late after John had sold it to another collector and he never found another one , life's like that for coin collector's isn't it?


  7. 11 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    are those R's instead of E's ?  I am trying to think where I have placed my model coins....  my gothic copper ones as above are both 1848 I had not realised there was an 1849 

    Is it in rogers the 1849 I mean? I saw one listed in the seventies in a farthing specialist list so theres more than one hanging around


  8. Where do you find most of your model coins drlarry?

    Most of mine come from either birmingham or by searching "toy coins "  on ebay  must admit I dont add many to my collection now just the odd buy   , I love bulk collections  and the odd pickup  is nice but probably around three time a year now.

    Searching "model coins" does get more views and thus higher prices , so i dont bother as much.

    Unfortunately buying this way you get lots of doubles , I usually bag them up and put them on the bay  as a bulk lot


  9. Just now, DrLarry said:

    My examples of the Crown are the same as in Rogers both of iron coated there are three variations ~'s 775 to 777 as there are 4 possible types in the sovereign I wonder if other varieties exists.  Please look 

    3 Half Crown types

     I think I have found a third new type of Florin with differing letter sizes on the reverse and a second variation in the obverse I will take photos and list later  

    note the star under edwards head

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  10. 11 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    I will check through my examples of Hairy Heads and get back to you ...they are yes certainly rare .  Oh that is a lovely story I did not realise he was a vicar 

    If I remember rightly it was the penny and i am pretty sure it was dated 1902 it was in about unc grade so it was not poor quality if there is a picture in rogers  book it will be the one I sold him .

    He could have retired in the early eighties so maybe he would not use the title reverand when retired , I am pretty sure he built up his collection over 15 years or so , remember it was so much harder back then with no ebay , farthing specialist was always on the lookout for nice coins for him.


  11. A full set of these would be very expensive they just seem to be found as singles I am sure they were not issued in great quantities.

    Might be interesting to know if the farthing also appears as a dated version Rev rogers book anyone?

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  12. And another in great grade .

    I remember sending one of these to the reverand rogers back in the seventies and he sent me a lovely crisp  £20 note for it so there ain't many arround

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  13. Talking of varieties does anyone know when the first 1862  6/8 was found I suspect its as recent as the late 1990's I am pretty sure there are about 25 or 30 at least known

    One for the penny geeks this one should not be hard as there are plenty out there


  14. 13 hours ago, Rob said:

    Peck was definitely not mainstream literature for the masses. At the time the second edition was printed, you were looking at around a fiver for a book. The same price as Seaby's were asking for a gFine Elizabeth I milled 3d or an EF Chas.II 2d. Colin Cooke once said to me that many of his customers didn't have reference books, and a good number didn't even have a copy of Spink/Seaby. The reluctance to 'waste' money on useful books is an age old problem.

    If you rely on CMV or whatever, coverage of varieties is a bit varied, with some pennies and milled coinage listed, but Civil War coins and hammered coins are not. Charles I Oxford halfcrowns for example are listed as from £350 Fine and £975 VF. That's it, one line to cover all varieties for everything. 100 years ago, Morrieson listed 102 varieties of Oxford halfcrowns in his BNJ article and that number is now larger. The same applies for all hammered coinage. Before I refocused the collection in 2008 I had a list of over 2200 halfpenny varieties documented or observed and over 1500 shillings, but that is hardly mainstream interest level. At that level, any discussion rapidly leads to the eyes glazing over and the shutters coming down.

    I suppose these days it is the internet that has become the equal to the written word and made the information available to a wider audience as it is searchable.

    Coins market values always valued the d over sideways d 1851 farthing  at about seven or eight time the normal coin - you try finding one in any grade its very difficult- well its still not in my collection after donkeys years anyway

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