copper123

lots of wear on obverse

could be real and tooled , but more likely a fake

TBH I think the idea another 1954 penny will turn up now after all this time since decimalisation is a bit laughable . If i was an underighter I would gladly give the owner of the 1954 a policy against anothers appearence , money for old rope

in the seventies i hear it was in private hands - it does seem unusual the bm does not have one .......but when a coin is that rare.......... Interesting about the 1953 pennies though, they are often found in circulated grade - prob folks who found themselves a bit skint in the late fiffties and broke the 1953 plastic set open , it was for sale with no premium attatched then - unlike the mint of today that charges £12 for a £5 coin and £8 for a £2 coin , basicly double or more than the price of the coin , excessive overchargeing for the packaging IMO

At a quick glance I get a- EF light edge damage b-GF/nvf c-A-unc or unc d-same E about fdc f-GVF G-unc H-nvf/vf

Exactly, and this period still has great interest to us collectors, pity about all those melted down hammered coins though, esp the charles shillings

silver coinage was made in several provincial towns in the great recoinage - i suspect the dies were made at the tower mint and safely and carefully sent to the towns , york , chester , etc probaby with a couple of senior staff to oversee production.

I think at the time silver production and copper production were in seperate areas of the mint . I surpose everyone wanted to work on the silver and gold coins as they would have more presteige. So the dregs and apprentices got the jobs on the copper

yes probably sold in the vatican to those guliable tourists for a fortune - I went there a couple of years ago and the rubish they try and flog you is amazing - plastic pope anyone?

The seller has obviously taken the ignore it and it might go away,(sometimes called the ostrich in the sand)attitude to the coin and the damage . It will however mean the coin will never sell in the end - the only thing that will is reduceing the price

At a guess i would say a £200+ coin - not a series i know much about though

looks a little like the obverse has been lightly cleaned at one time

I found one in not much worse condition (good fine)at the birmingham coin fair in a £5 coin box - I snapped it up it is a lot rarer date than folks realise. The damage on the coins reverse has turned it into a £50 coin and the seller should soon realise this . I could cry looking at the damage

Atractive very good fine reverse might even be pushed to nvf

In Dennis heally speak the royal mint is adopting a "screw them till the pips squeek" attitude to coin fans

TBH I would grade as very good fine , its also true you never find decent examples - the reign of steven is even worse

Almost certainly 1723, the 1722 and 1724 dates are a lot rarer

Price is ok if there is a sovereign and half sovereign in there

9/9 has to be wonderful though very clear

Halfpennies are pretty hard with few in much more than washer state , nicer grade coins are few and far between

Virtually no contemporary forgerys exist (Unless anyone knows different) but there are a few modern copies that might be passed off as the real thing . Surely these will just be the key dates - 1869 and 1875 h penny etc

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The daily Mail?

Room 101 contenders ----President assad and isis

I had a 1902 penny with extra teeth and it bit me on the bum , doh