copper123

A crown collection is a wonderful thing to have. Not one for the person who has no patience or is without deep pockets

In a lot of ways ebay laughs on this forum really sums up the general public's lack of knowledge about numismatics - well we all go on it and have a laugh at the polished buttons described as near mint , and the metal detector finds of blank corroded pennies . Things ain't gonna change overnight guys and in the end the only person in this numismatic jungle who is really to blame for buying rubbish is the buyer , no matter how wise or foolish this person might be. In the end just make sure it ain't you that's buying the unsellable rubbish

Even being a "known" dealer does not guarantee that a coin is genuine many northumberland shilling fakes have appeared in dealers trays and major London auction houses as well. To be fair any BNTA member would at least give you your cash back with no quibble if you had any doubts after buying from them

Is it a 1918/1919 threepence? If so there have been many arguements over this but the general consencus is it is not an overdate.

I think this was done years ago and the BNTA was formed Unfortunately enough, you don't have to be a member to sell a few coins on ebay or be a dealer of any repute

lots of trade tokens came from guilford - more than oxford anyway guilford i think is more likely

not to far from home then - there was a lot of trade between oxford and london

End of place name looks like ord .... Is it oxford?

Looks fishy as a haddock to me

why not just slab it as it is and some american might pay a fortune for it ! PS looks like chemical or heat damage to me

Funny thing is they even got the clipped thing wrong It is not clipped and in that state (if genuine ) would be a lovely example. If only worth £60- £100 , as has been already stated

Just shows really , most slabbed coins are not to be trusted - there are are a few names to trust , but american's and not me know who they are

In the absence of getting upgrades on coins in my collection , I have now started buying similar grade coins to the ones i have now but with a better tone (colour) , I really love the light coloured chocolate tone on early bronze and copper. Early Victorian bronze is harder to find with a good tone than the copper Anyone think this is a waste of time , or is eye appeal not valued in this country (Unlike the states). IMHO a lovely toned copper George IV penny for example is a real thing of beauty and to be admired a black toned one does very little for me , but I might consider it as a space filler. I sell the spares on ebay - this sort of upgrade usually cost me 20% of the coins value , so it really is not that expensive.

I must admit to scratching my head and just wondering how cc coins have the cheak to grade that 1732 as fine , yes it is a scarcer george II date but Fine? LOL I must say the 1744 farthing at £30 (1744) make much more appeal IMHO , a really bitch of a date to find and the coin is attractive with no problems

NVF on that obverse is not very accurate I would say , i have no probs with the reverse. a really lovely coin at a good price

Thanks for the many posts and opinions you all have given . I must say as well that the 1851 farthing in GVF also has the destinction of not one edge knock and this is quite unusual for early copper, in fact the edge is superb.

well yes i would like to upgrade quite a lot of my coins to be honest but a lot of the top quality stuff is at prices I am not really prepared to pay , for instance i have a lovely 1851 farthing in GVF nice tone and attractive ,cost me £14 if I wanted an ef with lustre I am sure it would cost around £80 or more, big jump . Am i just mean then ??? Probably

Do you think eye appeal comes with age and experience then ? After all the older you get the more coins you see and maybe the more fussy you become.

In the absence of getting upgrades on coins in my collection , I have now started buying similar grade coins to the ones i have now but with a better tone (colour) , I really love the light coloured chocolate tone on early bronze and copper. Early Victorian bronze is harder to find with a good tone than the copper Anyone think this is a waste of time , or is eye appeal not valued in this country (Unlike the states). IMHO a lovely toned copper George IV penny for example is a real thing of beauty and to be admired a black toned one does very little for me , but I might consider it as a space filler. I sell the spares on ebay - this sort of upgrade usually cost me 20% of the coins value , so it really is not that expensive.

everyone loves a good farting

One of my loves is actually "Numismatic profesionals" who don't know jack shit (to carry on the swearing in this thread) how else am I going to fill those spaces in my collection with the rare varieties at a reasonable cost?

Near vf reverse a bit better

Ahhh , steven and the anarchy - lot more difficult that one. personally i would just try and get a nice steven penny - very hard at the best of times

personaly i would count mary and philip and mary as seperate issues as indeed they are. stick to the groats and get a nice one of each - they are also a good investment as they are a lot rarer than say henry VIII half groats / groats

Just about to get a PPI refund £5,850 Any surgestions what to do with it!