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Hrmm, hrmm. Steady on old chap. Only within reason. Sorry chaps, I t'aint lovin yas naythers!

Which might account for their rather worn states of preservation now. Many of them appear as though they might have served duly as grape shot during the Napoleonic wars on the Continent.

I am a bit of a purist, I believe the only grade which matters is your individual opin of the piece in question, and not the opin of another printed on some paper and tombed within corrosive plastics.

There reside in many a coin cabinet in a museum here and tither that have ink marks as per noted previously. It was a common custom, objectionable by our standards, but okay by theirs. But then someone 100 years hence will surely ponder what the hell made people tomb their collectable coins within corrosive plastics?

A wee Irish lassie's portrait ta make my Scottish wife red with angers me thinks

I wondered how long it would take. He posts lots of anti-Catholic filth on another forum, so not only is this person a bigot in one way, but also in other facets. Poor bloke, he have many many inner misdoubts of his own sexuality and religion to have such vehement thoughts. However I don't wonder that perhaps it could have been better to have not afforded him such the opportune to have been blocked, but rather let him continue to post his vitriolic effluence with no affirmation from within our fair ranks. He does just move from venue to venue doing the same thing, so on Cointalk, Coinpeople etc. Now he apparently have his own forum, a forum of one. Actually Chris, I do not believe he is a New Zealander, but a wannabee from more northerly climes. So New Zealand's fair repute is not in suffer, but of course high in esteem as usual.

AW airs his misbegotten views until he realises he cannot stir the pot. He is scraping for a fight, like a typical troll. He comes in under the guise of being a British Empire collector, post lots of stuff about coins, then begins to post his vitriolic thoughts about religions, Irish in general, the Vatican etc. This is not the only forum which he have partaken of, he does indeed post his filth on others as well. He is demonstrably homophobic, which studies have suggested is a reactive self denial of one's inner doubts of their own sexuality. Be not offended by him, but do be sympathetic for the poor misbegotten soul. He acts of many guises, all of which he is denial of. Indeed he is a remarkably troubled individual whom have claimed on other forums to have suffered abuse by certain representatives of a purported church. So therefore he alleges said institution have an official policy of such matters, which is a bit far out, but in his tortured and tormented existence purports to have truths.

They both are strange bedfellows aye?

I believe it has more to do with the "investor/collector" mentality of many collectors in the USA. Frankly I purchase my coins purely for collector reason, I enjoy them as miniature artworks, with some monetary significance. Not as investments which are to be pawned off of in the near future. However to discuss numismatics here in the USA with other "collectors" there are not so many whom share said opin. Hmm, foreign policy... too bad both cannot stand down for their misteps.

This thread have taken a rather determinately questionable turn.

Those are really desirous so. Having collected so many Plantagenet coins, I like the knockoffs too. They were even made as far away as Germany. Says something about the sterling penny, it was respected.

Actually with some Scottish bronzes, notably those purported to have been created by the French soldiers stationed in Scotland during the reign of Mary QoS, they actually have much greater interest and value to specialised collectors. I have a counterfeit of a Charles I bodle that I paid the same price for as a crown issued example, but would have paid more if the price was more, just to have the counterfeit. I would like to find a decent counterfeit of a Bawbee from the reign of Charles II. The reason the contemporary Scottish counterfeits are in a different league, is that they were destroyed in coinage recalls by the mint, and the penalty for even possession of counterfeits could be severe. In addition to revaluations, coins were countermarked to confirm authenticity, especially during the reign of James VI, with the Marian coinages being recalled and countermarked. However with UK Georgian counterfeits of halfpennies, the obvious is true, they are valued much less, but then they are much much more common also.

If this piece were counterfeit, it is likely contemporary, and collectible thus. I have Scottish counterfeits from the time and they are more interesting than the authentic coins.

Looks like a roundhead got it and scuffed up Chuck

I am going to keep my reply simple and to the point: Amen

William III did not speak enough English to endear him to his new subjects. Surely he, and Anne for that matter, knew they were merely caretaker monarchs, and that they would have no descendants. Anne's children all died young. Surely it must have been hell for him to rule in England for another nearly 8 yrs after Mary's death in an unfamiliar land with strange customs and language. Speaking of foreign tongued monarchs, it was not until George III that the UK had a monarch with greater fluency in the English language. The first two Georges considered themselves more German than English and especially the first George never bothered to learn the language at all and spent most of his time back in Hannover.

Interesting are your comments about King William III. Facts be known that he was remarkably unpopular in England, especially after the death of his rather estranged wife, Mary II in 1694. He never spoke any English, nor did he care too. He was most probably a homosexual, and is reputed to have brought his lovers with him to England. About all he had going for him was his noted Protestant beliefs. Even for a monarch of that age, he has nothing which sets him above any other monarch of that time, and many which set him below.

Unfortunately the extremists though in the minority of the lot, surely are the loudest and foulest of thought.

Unfortunately the extremists though in the minority of the lot, surely are the loudest and foulest of thought.

Keep your eyes off Anne's bust.

Perhaps she is a mystery, like the Girl with the Pearl Earring, nobody shall know, she only shall mystify us.

The statement comes from the Old Testament of the Bible, so it is a Judeo-Christian commandment, but obviously the Judeo-Christians have oft forgotten said commandment, even amongst themselves! But every religion is right in their own eyes, God told them so! So thus you have Christians killing other Christians etc. Were the Lord of the New Testament to have descended from the Heavens, surely he would only find a great minority of true practitioners, and many many more condemned by only themselves.

If you are a true collector all that really matters is how much you like the coin and how it appeals to you. I have coins which are in slabs, for instance: Slabbed as VF-30, but then I have seen EF-45's which have much less eye appeal and have been cleaned etc. Anne has not been tooled, cleaned etc. She is all original. I bought the coin, not the slab.

Even Stalin and Hitler invoked God on their respective sides. Religious persecution in the USSR stopped dramatically during the war. Take the religious element out of just about any conflict and it loses all moral reason. Frankly I believe that the people promoting and enjoying the conflict in Northern Ireland are of a medieval mentality, and would possibly be quite suitable for resettlement in a land of their ilk, more like Iraq. Ian Paisley and his partner in crime, Gerry Adams should be the vanguard of immigration to Iraq.