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What’s the history of this one, Paulus?

Found it...it’s the same one he had for sale early last year. http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/13607-counterfeit-elizabeth-i-halfpenny/?tab=comments#comment-190324

Happy New Year everyone. See a good number of these around. Contemporary I’d think, certainly not Crown coinage. eBay 353313505402

Just for clarification, when I say ‘I’ve seen a good number of these around,’ I mean a good number of types of counterfeit E1 halfpennies. There may also be a lot of this particular type around, I don’t know for sure because I haven’t had my eye on it for a couple of years! This one’s for sale by John Newman...IIRC he’s previously had other counterfeit (contemporary or otherwise) hammered for sale, and I think the idea was at the time that they were pretty obvious and he ought to know better. I’ll see if I can track that conversation down...otherwise I’ll have to retract this paragraph.

Lord, I just reread that entire thread 🥴

No other words for it...bloody hell, Paulus!

I wish I could edit the title...it was more a ‘I can’t believe I’m so out of touch that this now achieves 85!’

I have been out of the loop for a long time...do I remember it correctly that CGS reconfigured their grading against other grading scales, or was that just a dream I had? Is there a difference between the early and ‘late’ graded CGS pieces? I guess this is the question I’m asking! I’ve always been passionate about hammered, so never closely followed the grading posts!

Exactly the answer I was looking for...thank you so much!

Many thanks, Nick.

Here one I haven’t seen before - John Newman ought to be able to spot this one a mile off. Could someone on a PC put up a link 362952613293

Lovely example 👍

Gorgeous, Non!

Love this...and that coin with all that underlying information. Brilliant!

I will never ever believe that someone could buy a coin of that prestige and money, without at least knowing the series inside out, it beggars belief. In fact I don’t believe it...it’s eBay, after all, he’s bidding on that to install false confidence, that’s my theory.

@ozjohn I feel pretty confident VickyS was actually talking about YOUR coin, not craigy’s find

Silver lustre is especially hard to capture in an image, unlike copper/bronze. I always struggled to get the blues right in the editing, making the coin look very cold. It’s definitely an art.

Great coin, amazing that these coins are over 100 years old now.

I’d argue that snapshot views are a dangerous thing. Does the leave position today correlate in any way with original campaign promises, I’d say not? Many have gone to their graves on the back of misleading facts and snapshot views, the hangman is testimony to that. I’m just asking that the government and the pressure groups all stand back and take a deep calming breath that’s all. The average 60-70 year old will know nothing of the long-term effects of getting this wrong - but my son will, and he has no say.

Mine was a compliment, that when a coin has this much lustre it can look ‘bag-marked’ because the surface shows even the most minimal of contacts, whereas a non-lustre coin can often look ‘immaculate’ simply because the lustre isn’t there to highlight the contacts...if you know what I mean?

What, not in the feeling that this has all gone completely pear-shaped? And I mean that most sincerely...every side has been let down by a mess that was kicked up by egos in government. I’m no expert in politics, I’m an idealist, which I apologise for but, surely, outside of a war cabinet, this is as shambolic as it gets...for everyone? No-one is a winner any more, whichever path you voted for, and that’s the kind of united fatigue I’m talking about.

That’s the biggest part of what’s bad about all this, is now I’m feeling the snowball has got too big and we’re all, both leavers and remainers, running out of sensible ways forward. Surely the leavers never meant for this? In a very strange way the country seems somehow united in the chaos we’re in.

Bag marks versus lustre! Always a massive trade off at this level, because the subtleties of these marks wouldn’t be noticed on a lesser coin, a coin without big lustre.