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  1. Sorry, I didn't mean to come across all preachy but that's just the way I do it. In hard cash terms I would expect to get that for around 'fair' money and then hope I didn't need to sell it in a hurry. As regards grading hammered - that's a black art to me! Hey, not preachy at all! I absolutely 100% agree with your point, it's the most logical and clearest approach to grading, especially if you are grading to sell!
  2. Do you mind if I have a dig at this one? I'll get in first so I can reflect on any other grading suggestions to follow. I'd personally go with fine/good fine, probably pulling the whole thing back to a fine overall, in view of the obverse scratch, and the reverse 'stain'. So I'm going for 'fine'. I'll watch out the other opinions with the greatest of interest. Put yourself in the position of a collector buying blind. Would you prefer 'Fine' or 'F/GF. Scratch on obverse, stain on reverse'? In my opinion, you mention damage rather than attempt to grade it. I would have to say I have given the obverse the benefit of the doubt as the picture leaves something to be desired and that (recent?) scratch would be the killer for me. As Rob has said, this is one where a bit of blue baize would be a better contribution to the collection. You're absolutely right...grade irrespective of damage, recording faults separately and accordingly! I have read much however that talks about grades being determined by a coin's faults; in hammered for example, by percentage of original edge, thereby using the extent of its clipping to arrive at a grade - not saying that this is good or bad either way. I think when I arrived at 'fine' I was thinking in terms of ££££$$$$$€€€€€, rather than descriptive aspects. Maybe not the best approach. Lesson learned, and point taken.
  3. Coinery

    Beginners Luck

    For Charles I shillings you want Michael Sharp's article in the BNJ 1977. BCW is the best reference for Elizabeth I silver as it differentiates the dies with reference to the punches used for the various components. What it does not do is list all the individual dies within a type, so different legend readings such as ELIZAB, LEIZAB, ELIZB for the samemark and issue are not noted - and there are a lot of different readings. Still worth getting, though I would recommend a hardback copy as the paperback cover soon becomes a bit distressed with use, certainly if it gets as much use as mine has. Brilliant, thanks, Rob, HB BCW it is! Are all the known dies catalogued somewhere? Would this be another BNJ undertaking?
  4. Coinery

    Beginners Luck

    That was a great read...I feel rather inadequate just asking you this simple question, but what are/is the best reference literature you use for your Charles I shilling collection? I've got North but obviously need something much more involved to take things to the next level. Incidently, have you got, or looked at, The Hammered Silver Coins Produced at the Tower Mint During the Reign of Elizabeth I by Brown et al.? Does this book go into the finest detail, would you or any other recommend it?
  5. Coinery

    I hate xmas

    Codeine is an 'ine,' a close relative to diamorphine (heroine), people pay good money for a trip like your's! Did you back the horse? I forget the stats, now, it does act as a hallucinogen for a number of people, not all, I think your reaction was at the top end of the drug's hallucinogenic potential. Take paracetamol AND ibuprofen (if you're able), spreading the maximum recommended dose over 24hrs. Ibuprofen will take a little while to build up levels in your system, but it should help a bit! Time for a disclaimer - read all the information provided with the drugs, and consult your GP/dentist...they're insured! Good luck and happy Christmas, Gollum, you'll be fine!
  6. Coinery

    I hate xmas

    I 100% second the above and, sorry to put a dampener on things, but your ABX will not provide you with any kind of pain relief for a number of days yet! Pain killers are not really that effective against this kind of pain, but codeine will help a bit if you can get your GP to prescribe them for you? Beware though codeine can make a lot of people extremely sick, not pleasant when opening your mouth fully is an issue! You'll be feeling better for Christmas!
  7. Coinery


    The tangibility of a hard-won 'sweat & blood' gathered folder/book/page, cataloging man's greatest weakness, just cannot be replaced by a collection of nicely catalogued images on a PC...not for me at least! Speaking for myself though I'd probably say it's cheaper in the long run to store your collection in a bank, as I have become aware that every time i make a coffee, or pour a glass of wine, and 'treat' myself to an audience with said folders, i always come away surfing the 'scene' for 'a better one,' or 'the missing one,' even just 'another one' ('cause it's cheap!) you know the illness that is passion, I'm sure!
  8. That is really, REALLY, nice, Rob. A lover of all things historic! I know absolutely nothing at all about collecting books, but let me spot an old date inside the front cover of any piece of literature, and I just zip off into a dream world of Austen, Shakespeare, Hardy...in fact, anywhere where the church bells ring out across the countryside, and horses clip along village cobbles.
  9. Do you mind if I have a dig at this one? I'll get in first so I can reflect on any other grading suggestions to follow. I'd personally go with fine/good fine, probably pulling the whole thing back to a fine overall, in view of the obverse scratch, and the reverse 'stain'. So I'm going for 'fine'. I'll watch out the other opinions with the greatest of interest.
  10. Coinery

    Royal Mint dies

    I often wonder why it is, for the sake of £20 worth of silver bullion, that the counterfeiters don't just do the job properly and be done with it?
  11. Coinery

    Best looking portraits on coins?

    An' a merry Christmas to ya too Mr Peckris! An' I suppose you'll want payin' for Christmas day an' all? Bah, humbug! The finest of forums, sir!
  12. Coinery

    Best looking portraits on coins?

    Very similar to the Afghan Taliban in their philosophy My first belly laugh in ages! :-)
  13. Coinery

    Best looking portraits on coins?

    Definitely the young busts of Elizabeth for me, especially 2B. All my other favourites are already mentioned above, excepting William III, who looks so completely regal on his coinage, yet so efeminate in his oil paintings. Young head Victoria, so elegant and cameo, and Cromwell, appearing so alive on his coins that he looks for all the world like he could leap off of it and rip your throat out at the mere mention of a dance in church!
  14. Freeman & Gouby it is then, many thanks for that! At the risk of sounding pathetic, this is such a great forum. I'll check out MC's site too.
  15. Can I just ask, as I have never browsed Gouby or Freeman, but do these books add anything more to Peck? If I was wanting to collect Victoria pennies, for example, would I be finding a great deal more to collect, many more variants listed, if I had Gouby or Freeman on the shelf? My God, the mentality of collectomania, the insanity of wanting to know the existence of ever micro-detail...and then seeking it out!
  16. Coinery


    Thanks, Debbie, thanks Nick! Another one in the grey matter that hopefully won't catch me out!
  17. Coinery


    Has anyone still got that 1905 saved in their 'my eBay,' I'd be interested in the exact title or number of the listing, so I could pull it up and take a look myself? Also, welcome Debbie, I'm very much a newbie myself. I have learnt more about coins this last few months on this forum, than I've learnt in over ten years of wading blindly through the hobby unsupported.
  18. Re the hair detail on the 4 over 3, it never occurred to me before that this would be the case. Is this because they only used worn 3's to overdate, or is it because the dies used were worn, thus the hair detail a consistent weakness throughout that particular mintage?
  19. There is; http://www.forgerynetwork.com/Default.aspx . I have to say I find it rather a muddle and not that user-friendly. Perhaps I'm just not doing it right! Many thanks, that's a superb and interesting link!
  20. RE smelting silver coinage...I looked into this a year ago, and followed ever lead I could and concluded, though I haven't the time or energy to surf it all out again, that you cannot smelt silver coinage. If you ask any reputable silver smelter, for want of a better word, he'll tell you it's illegal to smelt the coins. Anyway, it's of no interest anyway, as the coins are of much better value unsmelted, quite simply because they have the best assay stamp any horder of silver could wish for. Namely, its form, which is easily recognisable the world over, unlike a lump of melted 'silver'.
  21. Just out of interest, I think you'll find it's illegal to smelt British silver coins! I know the Americans did something similar for some of their coinage too!
  22. Hi all again, I'm sorry that all my posts are questions, rather than a sharing of information, but does anyone have any up-to-date information on the following? If you buy coins in auction, or by any other means, from other countries (USA, EU, AUS, etc.) with the intention of reselling them (namely, as a business), are there any duties levied by Customs & Excise and, if so, what should I expect to be charged? Also are there any other hidden import charges to watch out for? I have recently been browsing the world auction scene and have missed a few items of interest on account of my fears of large taxes upon import, so I need to get this one explored. Many thanks in advance for any knowledge shared, Stuart
  23. Hi, did you move your book on? If not, what are you wanting for it? Many thanks, Stuart
  24. Hi all, Am I just being paranoid here, but does anyone have any insider information that could shed any light into whether the practice of bidding-up absentee bids is common practice? I just wonder about this because if an auctioneer has an absentee bid of £500 in his hand, and a top floor bid of say £350, would it not be an easy thing to put in a ghost bid from the floor to drive up the amount charged to the absentee bid? After all, this is where the auction company makes its money. Bidding up an absentee bid would be a win, win, situation...any thoughts? Many thanks for the expertise, Stuart
  25. Thanks Azda & Seuk, I was too quick out the blocks, I did mean HC. Is there a good central resource for all the known fakes, other than platforms such as this, of course? The contemporary fakes are mostly not a problem to spot, but the modern stuff is pretty damn good in the pictures, I just hope they 're a doddle to spot in the hand???