Bernie

Almost certain that it's a D (95%) The shield on E appears to be not as oval, appearing flatter at the base.

Clearly reverse F, the large pictures of HONI SO that you placed earlier, the top picture is an obverse 6 and the lower is obverse 4 Pictures of obverse and reverse please.

Pictures of obverse and reverse please.

You may find that you have to tick the completed or sold items box to view finished item numbers.

Freeman reverse H

Willing to pay cash or exchange for other extremely rare varieties. Strangely enough, collectors who have such rare coins sometimes manage to get more than one example !

In response to the comment by PWA 1967, Forum members may be interested to know that I was the fortunate buyer of the 1862 VIGTORIA penny on eBay (images attached). Because of problems encountered while posting to this website, I’ve asked Bernie to kindly post this message for me. Best Regards, InforaPenny

My problem is that I cannot find out who owns these elusive coins. No collector that I know of owns these coins, but I often hear stories from collectors that they have heard of others that hold multiple examples. In the 1990's I advertised widely that I was searching for some of the elusive bronze pennies. I had very little luck and until later surveys were compiled, I couldn't believe that the amount of these rarities actually existed. Since wide use of the internet, coin forums etc, it was almost impossible to assess the true rarity of coins. I must admit, I am a bit guilty of holding duplicate coins, I don't need money fortunately, but hoping that trading may be the answer to obtaining the coins that I require.

Almost 100% a 4

It's a Freeman 111

This penny was once owned by me

Much higher definition pictures are available, but limited on this forum

Is this what you are looking for ?

Hello Gary & Bob, Here is even more evidence that this is a 6+F !!!!! Take a look at the die crack above R in REG. Well done Bob, this will sit nicely with your 14+N !

I've changed my mind Bob, I now believe that it's Obv 6 with rev F. The "O" of HONI SO does appear to show more of the "O" than obverse 4 These varieties are very difficult to identify in lower grades.

4 + F, I believe

How about this one.

Yes, I rang him after reading this post. He tells me it was 2009.

Members of this Forum may be interested in a link to a PDF of the following article in the British Numismatic Journal (BNJ) which has just been released from the usual 3 year embargo for BNS members only. Another that focuses on Early Obverse Beaded Border Pennies of 1860 is below it: Paul M. Holland, The 1860 Bronze Recoinage of Pennies BNJ vol. 88 (2018), 149-174. https://www.britnumsoc.org/images/PDFs/BNJ_2018/09_Holland_1853_3rd.pdf All other BNJ articles published from 1903-2018 are available at the British Numismatic Society’s website: http://www.britnumsoc.org/ Also, membership is encouraged by special student and new member rates, with all members receiving a large (A4 format) archival quality hardbound journal annually. Wishing you a Merry Christmas and all the best for 2022! InforaPenny

You are probably correct about the colon dots (my halfpennies are a lot smaller than the one pictured😂)

How do you explain the wide colon dots after F:D:

Obverse 13* and 13#, the same, just stating that it differs from 13. Obverse 13 has 133 border teeth, 13#/* has 132 teeth

It looks like a 13*, let's see the reverse ! is it J, K* or L ?

It does appear to be obverse 14, see if you can count the border teeth, 152 teeth for 14 and 149 for 15. Well done, brilliant find !

I would say that it is possibly a reverse F. The deep cut fabric hanging down to the left of Britannia's foot, looks very much like reverse F. The picture is crap unfortunately. I don't think that I would have risked £300 on it though ! I and ten other bidders bid for what appeared to be an 1862 8/6 a few years ago. I won it for £288. It turned out to be a stain on the coin !