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1887jubilee

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  1. 50 minutes ago, Rob said:

    Bought one lot for stock, but nothing for the collection. I wanted one of 3 Wiener shillings, but I'm not paying £7-15K for one. £3K maybe for a nice one. Equally, not paying £3K for the pattern decimal penny.

    No prizes for guessing which 1887 penny I got driven up to buy. But at least I know its pedigree right back to Murdock and it is after all unique.


  2. Conversations like this take me back 50+ years to phrases like "invitation to treat" "offer and acceptance" "fundamental terms and mere warranties"

    The goods on ebay only invite an invitation to treat (make an offer). Who remembers The Boots Cash Chemists case or 

    Carlill v Carbolic Smoke Ball Co

    If your money is not accepted there is no contract. On the other hand Sale of Goods Act is also in force so ask someone a lot younger.


  3. You could try

    H.W. Wood Limited

    The Baltic Exchange, 38 St Mary Axe, London EC3A 8BH

    Phone: +44 (0)20 7398 9000 ext 2105
    Direct Dial: +44 (0)20 3697 2105

    Good as you don't have to identify "valuables" or say what is gold silver or other. No photos needed but obviously if you need any claim it is good to have all details.

    If you use them I could do with a commission.


  4. On 3/2/2021 at 11:36 AM, Mr T said:

    Do you know if the 7 to head is known on circulating coins? I'm inclined to call it a pattern because it looks like an unrecorded obverse too - there are two lines on the bottom of the crown like obverse 1 but three pearls on the central arch like obverse 2.

    The main point with the obverse is the brooch has 20 pearls not 16 as is normal. So in fact a totally different obverse. Some of these were issued in the 1887 silver only sets. I have not seen a currency piece with 7 to a bead

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  5. 1 hour ago, JLS said:

    A good diagnostic for a proof of this issue is whether St. George's belt is sharp all the way across his chest. It's very rare to see a currency piece with this feature as they generally were not well struck enough. 

    Another test is to measure the distance from the top of the R in REG to the top of the T in VICTORIA. This is done with vernier callipers (for more reliable results take an average of 10 readings). Most of the proofs measure 33.6mm Other coins vary a good deal up to 34.6mm. This was a test introduced to me by Peter Davies of British Silver Coins. And no it is not a proof though the tone is rather pleasing on the obv.

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  6. I am trying to track down a shilling collector who might know where this coin is. ESC 1406 (3rd. ed.) BSC 1000 (1st. ed.) I know and have seen the Royal Mint example but where is the one sold  Spink & Son 11/7/2001  lot 1039 £1450 (£1668). I have the corresponding sixpence. The designer is said by Davies to be J E Boehm and the engraver said by Seaby & Rayner to be L.C. Wyon.

    1887 Shilling Pattern ONE SHILLING by JEB.jpg

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