bob.phillips

Thanks for your views.

Thanks for your prompt response Rob. So if the general consensus is that they probably don't exist then why are they listed in the various books. If it's because they just 'might' exist then surely they would have a higher value. Interesting that you bought one and returned it, 'not as described', was this because it didn't have star stops or was it a fake?

I am trying to understand why it appears to be so much more difficult to find an 1845 crown with 'star stops' than an 1845 crown with 'cinq stops'. I assume, obviously, that this is because the 'star stops' type is much rarer, but in the various coin books that I have the values of each type is exactly the same. Any views on this would be appreciated.

Hi Rob, Thanks for the info. I thought that might be the case. So I'll just add to my collection and ignore the problem. Thanks again, Bob P

Just decided to boost my collection of Victorian Silver 3d and my simple question is :- How to tell a normally circulated silver 3d from a silver 3d from a Maundy set. Is there a way of confirming a coin is either one or the other? I understand that Maundy 3d's were originally 'prooflike', but once in circulation then this will presumably be less noticeable. Thanks for any help, Bob P

Hi Colin, Thanks for the most helpful response. Your farthing site is great. Good to see that these types of coin varieties are of interest to others. From the pictures on your site, I believe that my coin is Obv 2, Rev 2. Thanks again, Bob

Rob, Thanks for the prompt response and I can see your point of view. If there is not a 'bump' where there should be a 'bump', it could be due to die fill. But clearly some of these types are considered significant enough to merit separate listings in coin books. The 1819 LX Crown without a stop after TUTAMEN is but one example. You did say in your response that these could be seen as significant if one could show that the error was on an original die. Is there any way of finding this out? ( Maybe thats a stupid question !!! ). I would like to hear more views on these varieties if anyone has any

I recently purchased a 1839 farthing and noticed that it has a full stop after DEF rather than a colon. This is not listed in 'Collectors Coins GB' 2011, though I see that such a variety is listed for the 1838 farthing. Is this a known variety for 1839 farthing and does it have a higher value? On the same theme of varieties, I also have a 1818 L1X crown where the A of TUTAMEN is missing the central horizontal bar and is like an upside down V. Is this a known variety? Any views would be appreciated. Bob Phillips

John, Thanks for the info. I was very surprised when you said the 1845* doesn't exist. As you say, it is sometimes advertised and it does appear in all the coin value books that I have. Thanks again, Bob P.

I like to collect silver coins and one such area is the crowns of the early victoria reign. I have 1844 with star stops and 1845 with cinq stops. I find it extremely difficult to get 1844 cinq stops and 1845 star stops despite both star and cinq being similar values in the various coin value books. The ones I am seeking seem to be much rarer and much more expensive. Is this the case or am I just not looking hard enough?? Bob P.

I would like to know something about the mistruck edge lettering on the 1844 crown listed in SPINKS, but giving no details of this error ( or at least not in my 2006 copy ). I have recently purchased a 1844 star stops crown, mainly because it is better condition than my current one, but it was also listed as mistruck edge lettering. This new coin has the normal REGNI replaced by REGNT ( and also the N is very faint ). Is this the sort of error referred to by SPINKS?? Regards, Bob P.

Thanks for response Peckris and I now see the faint dot. When you say a 'filled die', what does that mean? Is it unusual? Regards, Bob P.

Duh Bob? They never used full-stops on the coins back then. Thanks for the comment and I can only assume you are right and they did not use full stops. I am just a beginner in this but 'after the G' there is not a colon, as you can see from the picture. There is 1 dot. Maybe it's a forgery??? - or maybe it's a miss - strike. I'm just seeking help from the experts!!! Regards, Bob P.

The apparent misplaced top dot is not on the coin at all. It must have been a speck of dust or something on the camera lens. Regards, Bob P.

Attached photo. Not the best quality, but I still think it's a full stop after the G.