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Posts posted by Peckris

  1. 4 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

    Logistics are different but if you think about it we go from vinyl to digital downloads in a 30 year time frame yet for 30 years there was only 1 format.

    Not a good analogy. The 50s saw a change from shellac 78s to vinyl. The 60s saw the first audio cassettes appear. The 70s saw 8-track, and digital mastering. The 80s saw CDs. The 90s saw the first MP3s. This century has seen the download of digital music gradually change to streaming. Yet collectors of vinyl (especially), but even audio cassettes are thriving. It probably won't be too long before CD collectors start mushrooming. 

    Cash goes much further back than the ability to own music recordings, so if there is a transition to a cashless society it will be a great sea change as cash has existed for millennia.

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  2. 45 minutes ago, DrLarry said:

    Essentially it is like a very intricate web "beneath" the design surface.  Sometimes this hidden device fits the design which leads to it appearing more clearly because the eye can see the extant design with the underlying "hidden" one beneath.  The shield is a good example of this on the Bronze series.  Where the lions head (to me at least LOL) is quite clear and in the drapes where the small Lamb is being licked by the Lions head formed by the drapes. 

    The possible answer is a (even a slight) understanding of the way the human brain works. We are "geared" to see patterns in everything, probably stemming from the genetic necessity for babies to recognise faces almost before anything else. This weakens as we get older but it never dies out, and so we 'see' many things by forming a pattern that has meaning out of something that is completely random. People see the face of Elvis or Jesus or whoever in some item of food they've bought, or in clouds, or anywhere really. The picture below illustrates this perfectly:

    OMG It's Jesus (dog).jpg

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  3. 4 hours ago, Rob said:

    I personally started collecting both coins and stamps because my father did, as I suspect did a few others, but today that is a link which can be easily broken and only replaced with difficulty when instant gratification is the norm.

    I started because I saw a 1672 farthing for 6d in a antiques/curios shop window, and thought it would be cool to have something that old, and dated. I was 15 at the time.

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  4. 4 hours ago, secret santa said:

    When we all pass away I wonder whether the next generation will be interested in the things that we hold precious - all collections may slowly fade away to nothing in value. It's interesting to watch the various antiquey programs and see how items come in and out of fashion, e.g. brown furniture (which I still adore). I'm not sure if they actually ever come back.

    Even before vinyl became passably fashionable again, record fairs were - and are - a thriving business. And who sends postcards now? Yet there's still a healthy market for them. People like little bits of history, particularly if there are rarities involved.

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  5. 3 hours ago, Platinumskies1 said:

    Hi I’m after a gothic crown in good grade let me know if anyone has one available I’m after as many as I can get

    There's an unlimited supply in China.

  6. 2 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    oh I see is the variation in the second finger? and the knuckle of the thumb? It would be nice to be able to compare two with the same wear .....hey but at least she can hold the trident with some confidence she will not dislocate the shoulder the poor old dear had to cope with in the bun penny.  

    More than that - the thumb as well, which is slanted relative more to the trident than the hand on the one, but is a right angle to the trident yet quite bent on the other. The overall effect I would describe as "slanted fingers" and "straight fingers".

    7 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:

    yes I noticed on the coins I had different rim sizes one almost had no rim and just teeth some seem to be square cut with a flat surface and others are what looks like wire rims. Also you'll notice the placement of the center trident prong differs in relationship of how close it is to the rim of the coin. 

    The rims on the early George V pennies and halfpennies have very varied 'presence'. There was intended to be a rim of course, but the shallow reverse design relative to the deep cut portrait makes them almost disappear on some coins. It's purely a striking effect and not any indication of a variety as such.

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  7. Some of it COULD be down to die wear, but the angle of the fingers on the trident is telling - that is very noticeable. The real question is, how does a 1912 compare? It's just possible that Heatons were either given slightly different dies to use, or they took on the task of engraving them themselves. If a 1912 is exactly the same as 1911, then it's a Heaton matter, but if the two 1912s are the same, then you've spotted a minor variety.

  8. 7 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    oh well not much of an opinion out there on that one ./.......that is why the bottom is falling out of the penny you old boys are too busy putting up pictures of semi-naked models ...it's turning into a greasemonkey garage wall rather than concentrating on coins  

    Well, if you will post topics with titles like "Is the bottom dropping out of the Penny market" what else do you expect!

  9. 19 hours ago, Generic Lad said:

    Hey all, so let me start out by saying I'm by no means a bun head penny expert or that bronze coinage is even really in my interests, however I found this on eBay tonight and ended up winning the auction ($12 US, probably overpaid but...). According to my copy of Freeman and from what I can tell online, the only reverse known for the 1862 penny is Freeman G (probably has a different reference for other references) it looks like one of the key die indicators of reverse G is that the sea extends beyond the circle all the way to the border... However, I'm not seeing this in my coin? Since I just won this auction I don't have this in hand this is the best pictures I've been able to get. The pictures don't seem to want to be uploaded here in full so I've made an album on IMGUR here: https://imgur.com/a/UcBshRd

    I'm afraid it looks like a clear fake to me. :(

  10. 21 minutes ago, DrLarry said:

    there in lays another strange thing the C of VICTORIA always seems to have a small piece of metal midway on some samples I have examined the remnant of the G can be clearly seen as scars suggesting naturally that the G was cut away why was the small flaw left to remain as a small metal lump?

    Probably it was much easier to cut away the matrix die which, like the finished coin, has the details in relief unlike a working die which is incuse. It's always easier to remove by cutting away than by filling in.

  11. 5 hours ago, DaveG38 said:

    I don't. Picture this situation. It's the August Bank Holiday Sunday. I'm a student working the till in the Lyons teashop in the Old Steine Brighton, and there are queues all around the self service counter and almost out into the street. Back then a cup of tea was 6d, a roll and butter 9d, fish and chips 4/11, etc. etc, with some prices including a halfpenny as well, I have to know the actual prices, but at least the new tills back then did the adding up for me. Then the power failed!!!! Good job I was good at maths at school.  

    Couldn't happen now... (I'm looking at you, VISA)

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  12. I'm not sure. There's considerably greater wear on C1 than on C2 which COULD account for all the minor differences you see. It's not conclusive of course, but I would estimate they are the same reverse.