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Posts posted by Peckris
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Some of it COULD be down to die wear, but the angle of the fingers on the trident is telling - that is very noticeable. The real question is, how does a 1912 compare? It's just possible that Heatons were either given slightly different dies to use, or they took on the task of engraving them themselves. If a 1912 is exactly the same as 1911, then it's a Heaton matter, but if the two 1912s are the same, then you've spotted a minor variety.
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7 hours ago, DrLarry said:oh well not much of an opinion out there on that one ./.......that is why the bottom is falling out of the penny you old boys are too busy putting up pictures of semi-naked models ...it's turning into a greasemonkey garage wall rather than concentrating on coins
Well, if you will post topics with titles like "Is the bottom dropping out of the Penny market" what else do you expect!
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23 minutes ago, Coppers said:Here she is with a mature coin collector...
A Rumbold EF perhaps?
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10 hours ago, Guest Vinnie said:Just to inform anyone out there I have a Victoria 1897 where there is a dot after the 0 thanks
"A" dot or "the" dot? Please put a picture up.
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3 hours ago, DaveG38 said:The Penny Irving type from the 1970s, by the looks of it.
Spot on. Penny's bottom may be dropping out of her knickers there...
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Not popular at the time due to size and weight. This is why so many have survived in GF - GVF, unlike the penny which is harder to find in decent nick.
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19 hours ago, Generic Lad said:Hey all, so let me start out by saying I'm by no means a bun head penny expert or that bronze coinage is even really in my interests, however I found this on eBay tonight and ended up winning the auction ($12 US, probably overpaid but...). According to my copy of Freeman and from what I can tell online, the only reverse known for the 1862 penny is Freeman G (probably has a different reference for other references) it looks like one of the key die indicators of reverse G is that the sea extends beyond the circle all the way to the border... However, I'm not seeing this in my coin? Since I just won this auction I don't have this in hand this is the best pictures I've been able to get. The pictures don't seem to want to be uploaded here in full so I've made an album on IMGUR here: https://imgur.com/a/UcBshRd
I'm afraid it looks like a clear fake to me.
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Nice. I've always liked the first type 1911-13 better than the 1913-21 type. A well struck up example is a handsome coin though worn ones have shocking reverses due to the virtually non-existent rim.
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21 minutes ago, DrLarry said:there in lays another strange thing the C of VICTORIA always seems to have a small piece of metal midway on some samples I have examined the remnant of the G can be clearly seen as scars suggesting naturally that the G was cut away why was the small flaw left to remain as a small metal lump?
Probably it was much easier to cut away the matrix die which, like the finished coin, has the details in relief unlike a working die which is incuse. It's always easier to remove by cutting away than by filling in.
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5 hours ago, DaveG38 said:I don't. Picture this situation. It's the August Bank Holiday Sunday. I'm a student working the till in the Lyons teashop in the Old Steine Brighton, and there are queues all around the self service counter and almost out into the street. Back then a cup of tea was 6d, a roll and butter 9d, fish and chips 4/11, etc. etc, with some prices including a halfpenny as well, I have to know the actual prices, but at least the new tills back then did the adding up for me. Then the power failed!!!! Good job I was good at maths at school.
Couldn't happen now... (I'm looking at you, VISA)
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The matrix for the obverse dies could have been used over and over again until 1874, as the obverse didn't change unlike the reverses where a new date numeral required punching for each year.
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The normal 1863 is one of the most common early bun pennies, as are the common varieties of 1861 and 1862. They were new so many got put aside. From 1864 they start getting scarce especially in top grades, but there are also squillions of different varieties - some extremely rare - between 1860 and 1861. It's a specialist subject in its own right - very complex.
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8 hours ago, jaggy said:I won't care, I will be dead ...... and you can't take it with you.
Very true. But never forget, "You're born with nothing, so if you die in debt, you've made a profit."
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I'm not sure. There's considerably greater wear on C1 than on C2 which COULD account for all the minor differences you see. It's not conclusive of course, but I would estimate they are the same reverse.
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I wonder if that's what it really is? I only ask because the 'curve back' (which is clearly there) is extremely thin, which could be a die crack between the strong downstrokes of the R. If you look carefully, there's a similar thin 'connecting rod' at the bottom of the adjacent A.
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My God, you'd pay more to entomb a 1930 6d than the coin is worth!
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Couldn't determine by the bridge of the nose (scratch) so I went by the bulging forehead and shorter thicker nape hair.
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2 hours ago, Andrew W said:Thanks, 1949threepence. I'm chuffed to bits with it much prefer it to my old Lighthouse trays. Incidentally, if anyone is interested in any Lighthouse trays, message me.
Ever thought of being a salesman?
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6 hours ago, Paddy said:Printed in 1973 by HMSO, it contains a detailed discussion of all the Edward VIII coins, including colonial, and has black and white photos of most of them. It even has pictures of alternative designs considered for the threepence.
You mean the brass 3d? The one in the illustration is the ultra rare proof that shows the same reverse design as used for George VI. The almost ultra rare one shows a different design (same motif of a thrift plant) and was the one they issued to shopkeepers etc for testing their machines. A few didn't make it back to the Mint and were the ones people scoured their change for ever since.
The silver 3d, 6d and halfcrown designs only exist as extremely rare proofs, as do the other denominations though those are the same as used for George VI and shows the 'panic' station the Mint got into after the Abdication in late 1936, at which point they carried on minting George V coins dated 1936 (which is why they're so common) and meanwhile recycled most of the Edward VIII designs for George VI to get the 1937 issues out as soon as possible.
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For me, it's 15 but see what others say.
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14 hours ago, zookeeperz said:I also am a frequent user having narcolepsy and cataplexy and have had to research my own medication because the so called Consultants are out of touch and the guy who is my consultant even forgot to contact the then PCT to request my medication be sanctioned . How can you forget when you are dealing with somebody else's life? I still am 1 of 62 in the entire UK who was allowed the medication. Another thing I find extremely distressing having to go cap in hand for medication that should be given without jumping through bureaucracy and postcode lottery hoops. The NHS is failing and unless they open their eyes a see that people do actually live longer and more people are alive than in 1945 and the money needed is a damn sight more than they give. I nearly lost my daughter whilst she was giving birth due to the incompetence of the nursing staff not doing their jobs correctly. She ended up fitting and losing 4 pints of blood. So whilst I agree for the most part the Nurses do an exceptional job under real pressure and are not paid what they are worth not all of the NHS is perfect especially when it comes to midwifery
That's very true, but it's a result of (1) NICE and their ludicrously delayed judgements on whether to licence a new drug, and it's so often "No", and (2) despite their - I would say criminal - assertions to the contrary, the government cuts in real terms to the NHS budgets. Far from failing, I think the staff who are there do a heroic job in the face of their greedy bungling paymasters.
There will always be tragic failures, that's for sure. But if you look at how many people are treated by an understaffed, under-budget health service, you have to feel nothing but admiration. Add to that a population who are getting ever more like the States in matters of obesity, drink, drug abuse, lack of exercise, poor diets etc, and really we should give out medals to the health professionals.
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7 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:Wear would probably account for most of the differences (the left hand coin is even more worn than the right hand one). As for the convex vs concave, I would venture that it might be die wear rather than coin wear?
1911+1912 H Both same rev?
in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
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Interesting. So the two types of 1912 have the same hand, but the 1911 is different. Worth digging deeper.