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  1. 17 hours ago, kieran said:

    do you recommend that i invest in bullion coins then and not worry to much about the dates for while? where is a good place to purchase coins?  

    No no! I only mentioned 'bullion' because even worn silver coins have an intrinsic metal value. I didn't mean to suggest you collect them.

    The best place to buy is from reputable dealers (there's a few in this forum) or - as mentioned - from coin fairs once you know more about the subject. If you're in London, there's something called The Cumberland Fair? Or used to be - Cumberland being the hotel it was held in. Avoid Coincraft like the plague - they have great knowledge and enthusiasm, but their prices are aimed at the average American tourist who knows nothing about coins but wants a little bit of history.


  2. Welcome Kieran.

    No coin is worthless if you enjoy owning it and can learn something from it. 

    As a starting point, your coins pre-1947 have real silver and are worth bullion unless in high grade. Pre-1920 are full silver and worth double that, as bullion.

    Collect in as high a grade as you can afford, so don't (yet) embark on date runs .. some of us don't at all, ever.

    Your first thing should be to 'gen' up on the subject. The two best and cheapest things for this would be two of the books in the advert top : CCGB 2018 which is a wealth of information and a price guide too; and 'Grading British Coins'. Get both those and you won't look back.

    And don't be afraid to ask here - we only cook and eat newbies in odd numbered years. ;)


  3. 45 minutes ago, Colin B said:

    That is so true, Just goes to show that even in 1770's a everyday person had the means and know how to counterfeit coins 

    Bear in mind there were two quite distinct reasons for forgeries: the silver washed copper forgeries of George III silver between 1816-20 that SEUK collects and studies were done for the good old traditional purpose of trying to get rich quick. The huge number of forgeries of halfpennies between 1770 and after were MAINLY done because of the chronic shortage of base metal coins (the main reason that trade tokens were also minted in large numbers). And when you consider that there was only that short series (1770-1775) between 1754 and the cartwheels of 1797, then the issue of 1799, then 1806-7 and then nothing until George IV - you can begin to understand the scale of the problem.

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  4. 10 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

    1938 BU is almost impossible to find apparently?

    The most difficult farthing since 1915 I'd say (notwithstanding the rather overrated 1935).

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  5. 9 hours ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

    As long as notes exist, coins will be required for change.

    When cash doesn't exist in monetary form it will be a sad day, charities and homeless people will suffer greatly from the inability to donate loose change.

    £1 and £2 coins demand the coinage continues for a good while yet, even if other denominations fall away.


  6. 3 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

    Yes there is a drive to do away with cash machines in the not so distant future

    Don't see it - eventually maybe, but coins will disappear long before notes.


  7. 39 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:

    There will come a time when cash as we know it will cease to exist it will all be contactless. Just scan and go. But not for maybe 50 years or so but it's coming you can feel the undertones :)

     

    Could you believe the recent outcry over the mere suggestion that the bronze coins are now a waste of space? Just for the record, the 1p is worth less than the 1/2p when it was demonetised, and a LOT less than the farthing in 1960 when it went. I will mourn the name 'penny' but not the coins themselves.

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  8. 20 hours ago, jaggy said:

    I never buy mixed lots and very rarely do I buy a lot with more than one coin in it. I often wonder who buys the larger lots and speculate that it may be dealers replenishing stock or e-bay sellers buying stock. 

    You'd be surprised. Dealers don't want lots with a few good pieces in and a pile of dross that will sit on their shelves forever. They might put in very low bids, but a keen collector could outbid, unless they too didn't know what to do with the dross.

    I got a few such lots when I was a list dealer - I'd cherry pick the good stuff for myself, recording a buying price of say 2/3 book; then I'd put a lot of the rest on my list, selling at under book but still making a notional 100% profit; after that, the dross worked out all but free and I didn't really care what happened to it.

    (This was late 90s, well before eBay).


  9. 20 hours ago, ozjohn said:

    It would have been nice to see the larger coins halfcrown etc with the Gillick effigy of Betty Windsor fully struck in silver. A set like the 1970 last of the LSD would have been a good vehicle for such an issue. As for maundy money I suppose they are struck in silver but do not carry the reverse designs and any case a bit small in size to appreciate  the designl.  Maybe even a reissue of the 1960 crown would be an idea as well. Frosting them would be a bonus. Like I say the RAM issued in their masterpieces in silver a re-issue of the new decimal coins as a 50th anniversary edition including the 2 & 1 cent originally bronze coins struck in silver which are close in size to the maundy coins.

    That would have been unprecedented. Remember that the 1950, 1951, and 1953 proof sets were all CuNi. Yes, it would have been nice, but the RM couldn't anticipate the kind of nostalgia that's around now, nearly 50 years later.

     

    11 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

     

    As Rob pointed out, that's a circulated example and has lost its proof coating and become just an ordinary 'impaired' proof. 

     

    1 hour ago, craigy said:

    a 1970 frosted proof would be like the holy grail, must be a set or 2 out there 

    No, there are not different kinds of proof out there, it's just that they introduced frosting in the early 80s, and before then it's a bit hit and miss. Your Aussie set doesn't look any more frosted than your 1970 set, except for the bronze. You can see frosting on the relief of all those 1970 CuNi except the sixpence.


  10. 23 hours ago, ozjohn said:

    A poor choice of metals to replace sterling silver perhaps. They did not hit on the right alloy until about 1927.I think I remember that the early 50% silver coins were "treated"to migrate Ag to the surface to improve their appearance. This can be seen when they wear and take on a distinct "coppery"look. Even with the increased copper in these coins I have never seen green verdigris form on these coins even when they have been lying forgotten in a draw for years. In Australia, where these coins were stored we experience much higher humidity than the UK which is conducive to the formation of verdigris. No verdigris was found on these coins.

    No, that was the second or third attempt, after awful yellowing even on virtually Unc specimens. Certainly by 1925 they were doing what you said, which is why worn 1925 halfcrowns have those ugly brown patches.

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