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  1. Posted

    1 hour ago, alfnail said:

    Hi Richard,

    Well spotted.

    All examples of 1858/6 which I have seen have a die flaw running from between two border teeth to the top of the C of VICTORIA. Later strikes, like the one pictured top left, have a more developed flaw.

    Once you know that the 1858/6 is paired with a single reverse die you can then check for the reverse ‘features’, some of which are pictured below. You already mentioned the mis-aligned colon after DEF; the other colons (particularly after REG, see picture) are also mis-aligned. When examining all 4 sets of colon dot positions they become a good indicator of type.

    The 1858/6 reverse also has some additional ‘features’ which provide further confirmation of type; some of these are illustrated below e.g., detached clover, botched repair to G of REG, and protrusions around some letters in the legend (e.g., NN of BRITANNIAR). There are a couple of others which are less obvious.  

     

    Clearly if the ebay pictures are half decent one can also see that date, and at least be able to see that the coin is a ‘smaller numerals’ variety. This in itself significantly narrows down the possibility that it may be an 8/6.   

    BUT BEWARE!! – See Post Below

    Indeed, well spotted Richard. I must admit, I hadn't even started to look. Immediately checked mine which also has the die crack running from the C of VICTORIA to the rim, between teeth (but not horizontally as on the example above). Also, the detached clover is present.

    The logical presumption with the 8/6 is that it has to be based on the dies used for small date 1856's. I checked my PT small date and OT 1856's. The very noticeable clue is that the detached clover is present on the OT 1856 (which are all small dates), but the clover remains attached on the PT small date 1856. 

    Should add that my OT 1856 is only fine, but thedetached clover is very clear.     

     

  2. Posted

    A great read!
    THESE ARE ACTUAL COMPLAINTS RECEIVED BY "THOMAS COOK VACATIONS" FROM DISSATISFIED CUSTOMERS:
    1. "They should not allow topless sunbathing on the beach. It was very distracting for my husband who just wanted to relax."
    2. "On my holiday to Goa in India, I was disgusted to find that almost every restaurant served curry. I don't like spicy food."
    3. "We went on holiday to Spain and had a problem with the taxi drivers as they were all Spanish."
    4. "We booked an excursion to a water park but no-one told us we had to bring our own swimsuits and towels. We assumed it would be included in the price."
    5. "The beach was too sandy. We had to clean everything when we returned to our room."
    6. "We found the sand was not like the sand in the brochure. Your brochure shows the sand as white but it was more yellow."
    7. "It's lazy of the local shopkeepers in Puerto Vallartato close in the afternoons. I often needed to buy things during 'siesta' time -- this should be banned."
    8. "No-one told us there would be fish in the water. The children were scared."
    9. "Although the brochure said that there was a fully equipped kitchen, there was no egg-slicer in the drawers."
    10. "I think it should be explained in the brochure that the local convenience store does not sell proper biscuits like custard creams or ginger nuts."
    11. "The roads were uneven and bumpy, so we could not read the local guide book during the bus ride to the resort. Because of this, we were unaware of many things that would have made our holiday more fun."
    12. "It took us nine hours to fly home from Jamaica to England. It took the Americans only three hours to get home. This seems unfair."
    13. "I compared the size of our one-bedroom suite to our friends' three-bedroom and ours was significantly smaller."
    14. "The brochure stated: 'No hairdressers at the resort.' We're trainee hairdressers and we think they knew and made us wait longer for service."
    15. "When we were in Spain, there were too many Spanish people there. The receptionist spoke Spanish, the food was Spanish. No one told us that there would be so many foreigners."
    16. "We had to line up outside to catch the boat and there was no air-conditioning."
    17. "It is your duty as a tour operator to advise us of noisy or unruly guests before we travel."
    18. "I was bitten by a mosquito. The brochure did not mention mosquitoes."
    19. "My fiancée and I requested twin-beds when we booked, but instead we were placed in a room with a king bed. We now hold you responsible and want to be re-reimbursed for the fact that I became pregnant. This would not have happened if you had put us in the room that we booked."
     
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  3. Posted

    42 minutes ago, blakeyboy said:

    I am very pleased to point out that my reaction to this post has made Alfnail's points total equal the number of listings.- 692/692.

    A full reaction point for every posting is a hell of an achievement, and just shows the quality of his postings.

    Absolutely, not noticed that. It is extremely good going. 

  4. Posted

    2 hours ago, TomGoodheart said:

    Yes. Just because something is rare as a graded example, doesn't mean that others, possibly better, don't exist in considerable numbers.

    The whole 'top pop' thing really doesn't mean much IMHO. Always buy the coin, not the slab.

    Indeed, with the LCGS slabbing, the "top pop" was just based on the coins they personally slabbed, not the entire extant population.  

  6. Posted

    7 minutes ago, alfnail said:

    Hi Mike,

    I have checked my past sales and find that I have owned 10 x 1858/6’s over the years. A long time ago I realised that, like some other overdate pennies in the YH series, it is often possible to identify an 1858/6 without being able to see the date. All of my 10 coins have had the same features on both obverse and reverse which indicates that this type is always struck from a single die pairing.

    Having said the above, and also just checked ebay where I can see at least 2 of these, I don’t think it is as common as an 1858/2 or an 1858/3, and far less common than combined 1858/7 types.

    For 1858 known varieties my ‘top of the head’ guess would be to place it roughly on a par with Bramah 26a No WW Missing Serifs, but definitely more common than the two ‘Large Rose’ types.

    Hope this helps.

    I really need to attempt some 1858 stats from my 5-year ebay study!

     

    P.S. The Ingram coin shown above is the type described by Michael Gouby as 1858/2

    Thanks very much, Ian. Again, incredibly useful info. You still don't see many of them offered for sale, and there are many misattributions, such as the Ingram specimen.  

    With regard to the emboldened text above, may I ask what the feature is which marks out the 8/6, without needing to look at the date itself. 

     

  7. Posted · Edited by 1949threepence

    50 minutes ago, Iannich48 said:

    Rendall Ingram has one listed as 8/6, aunc for £275. I cannot say if it is the real deal.

    Well it certainly looks different, but I don't think it's over a 6. If they were certain and it really was over a 6, I think they'd be asking quite a bit more. ETA: might be over a 2. Seems to have that characteristic die crack through the lower part of the numbers, although not especially well pronounced. Also, it's large, not small date. For 8/6, it needs to be small date.

     

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  8. Posted

    I wondered if anybody had any thoughts as to how rare or otherwise the 1858/6 penny was.

    Somewhat curiously, it's not noted by either Peck or Bramah. Gouby mentions it in passing, but as far as I can see, does not speculate as to its scarcity.

    I managed to get one from Britannia Coins in August 2020, toned aEF and issue free, for £66, which struck me as a slam dunk bargain.

    Not a coin you see offered every 5 minutes, and when you do, close up examination usually reveals that the seller has got it wrong, and there is no giveaway vertical line on the left side between the loops of the final 8. Some even with a large date, whereas of course all 1858/6's are small date. The genuine article seldom spotted.

    I'd have to say rare, possibly very rare.    

  9. Posted

    2 hours ago, TomJJ said:

    Hello good folk 

    This is my first post , I’ve attempted to leave a “Wanted” request but can’t , do I need a minimum post count 

     

    Thanks in advance. 

    I wasn't sure of the rules on this, so looked them up. It appears you need a post count of 30 before you can post in the "wanted" section - link  

  10. Posted

    1 hour ago, copper123 said:

    Thank god for the recent rain we have needed it up north as well - I do know that the south is pretty desperate so presume its been very wellcome

    Very much so - although the new grass (turf) I had fitted in April did really well for rain in the first few weeks, the long dry spell caused it to begin to look faded and for the individual squares to be seen.  Should have used a hose on it.

    As it is, my rain gauge measured 77.4 mm (about 3 inches) of rain up to 9am yesterday - a good soak over 3 days.

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  11. Posted

    27 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

    We must have had  a good soak last night as there was plenty of water in the pot saucers this morning. Having said that, today's 'thunder weather warning' never materialised.

    Nor round here either. As soon as the residual rain cloud cleared late morning, it was just sunny for the rest of the day. Actually it was nice to sit in the living room and feel comfortable instead of uncomfortably hot.

    Due to get hot again over the next couple of days. Beyond that, there is a possibility it might turn cooler and more unsettled generally, but especially in the North and West.  

  13. Posted

    4 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

    Tonight there could be heavy rain in the SW - and overnight is the ideal time!

    Yes. I've just watched the BBC News weather forecast which confirmed that. Should be arriving here in the South Midlands by about 5am.

    Round here we had two or three pulses of heavy to torrential rain, each lasting 2 or three hours. The last of which was indeed during the night, between about 11pm and 2am. More moderate in intensity this time.  

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  15. Posted

    21 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

    From the LCA website:-

    This F71 appears to have an aquiline nose, with a prominent bridge - link - but that's not what I would call a "hooked" nose, as such. 

    This F71 appears to have a normal straight nose, no different to any pre obverse 11 nose link

    Freeman 106 - I would say this is a "hooked nose" link

     

    1 hour ago, Mr T said:

    Are those links not loading for anyone else at the moment?

    They still work for me, and did so when I first loaded them. Always check links to make sure they work.

    So, not sure. Maybe there is an issue.

  16. Posted

    6 hours ago, Bruce said:

    I also won't consider to slab my coins, unless it's going to put up for auction.  I will keep it in capsule to try to protect it from scratch etc, and then in an air tight box with desiccant, coz humidity is too high in hong kong.

    Living in an area with consistently high humidity presents a potential problem to coins, but I'd say your plan od using desiccant/silica gel is an excellent one, as it acts as a dehumidifier, taking moisture out of the immediate area, while not offering any contamination itself.

    Humidity isn't a major issue in the UK as it only very rarely gets above 70% and most of the time is between 45% and 60%. It is a big problem in the USA, notably states such as Florida - hence this American ad relating to humidity and silica gel/desiccant, and coin storage, which I thought looked useful - link  

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  17. Posted

    7 hours ago, Kipster said:

    Afternoon all,

    Probably a simple question but one I think I should ask. I've just acquired a couple of proof farthings and wanted to check that these will be perfectly happy living in my cabinet? Being proofs do they need to be protected in any other way to make sure they remain in the condition they went in at?

    Cheers.

    There are two schools of thought on this one. As Stuart says, there is an argument that they are better off airtight. Certainly they are very safe like that, although there have been whisperings about NGC not handling coins carefully, and leaving bits of detritus in the locked casing.

    On the other hand there are proofs from over two centuries ago, which are still FDC. I'd say that if the proof remains unslabbed then its main threat comes from you the owner via careless handling, accidental micro saliva spillages through talking whilst handling, and the like. .

    For reference I'm not slabbing mine, but I am in the process purchasing a new small cabinet dedicated to proofs and patterns, and I will be wearing a face mask and gloves when looking at them.  

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  20. Posted

    One of my recent upgrades from Mark Horton, was to a superb UNC F71.

    Looking at Freeman there is a little number "18" against the F71.

    Note 18 states: "The obverse on these is really a variant of obverse 7, with a hooked nose and tie ribbon intermediate between that on obverses 7 and 8". 

    I must be honest and say that I can't actually see any differences between the F71 (including the previous one it has replaced) and the other obverse 7's, even through a powerful loupe. 

    Also, the first obviously hooked nose was on Obverse 11. 

     

     

  22. Posted · Edited by 1949threepence

    1 hour ago, Kipster said:

    Nope, that's as fresh as a daisy new turf. Artificial grass is anathema to me as someone that maintains gardens for a living. Absolutely hate it.

    And unfortunately I live next door to someone that loves the bloody tree rats, and the actual rats that have now been disturbed by the other neighbours building work and are running all over the show. Real pests, and so are the rats as well.

    Thanks mate. It cost enough and it won't be being done again in my lifetime.

    That's a nice sized plot you have there. Plenty of opportunity to change things if you wanted to, and to get it how you want it to look. 

    Thanks. It's very good to sit in and relax - and at night when the house is so hot in the current weather, it's so much more comfortable sitting outside for a bit, especially if there's a slight cooling breeze. I would not like to be without my garden.

    As far as pigeons, there's an abundance of them round here as well. The old girl next door feeds them, so it just attracts more. Not good.

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  23. Posted

    2 hours ago, Coinery said:

    Bought one of these today, just so someone might talk to me. A common date, but an OK grade I’d say :) 

     

    Very nice grade in fact, and issue free.

    Whenever I see an 1862, I always automatically look for three possibilities, a) halfpenny sized date, b) VIGTORIA, c) F38. Admittedly all exceedingly unlikely.

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  24. Posted

    5 hours ago, Kipster said:

    Couldn't add the second one, so here it is

     

     

    Looking very neat and classy now, Kipster

    I don't have any before pictures, but these are two just taken a few minutes ago. Garden still a work in progress, although much less to do now. 

    First pic shows the view from the top to the bottom of the garden. The second is a side view from where I was standing which shows two trees, the new grass and a glimpse of the new fence panels. The ones at the side are next door's responsibility. Don't know about anyone else but can't stand those short arse fence panels, as anybody can just gawp in at you (not that they do in all fairness).

     

     

    garden 1.jpg

    garden 2.jpg

  25. Posted

    6 hours ago, Kipster said:

    Nice chap is Mark. Spent a few quid with him over the past year and has some nice pieces. Always ready for a chat.

    Well the three pieces that I've just bought from him fall into what I call, the classification of "meaningful upgrades". Where the difference between what you've now got and what you had, is very substantial. That makes it well worth the money you spend.   

     

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