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  1. Posted · Edited by 1949threepence

    13 minutes ago, Paddy said:

    Not sure if Ebay have pulled them too, or just they are all sold. I can't find any still for sale there at the moment...

     

    As it's now illegal to sell them, I doubt anybody will find one.

    Those that do have one or more, will probably keep them for the time being.

    No idea how many were actually struck for the various trials.  

  2. Posted

    18 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

    Again Human greed ...got a coin for nothing and try to sell it for £400-600....... i am glad they pulled it :P

    Yes - even so, they will probably be scarce. I wouldn't mind betting that if most of the trial pieces out there are returned to the RM, it'll put a huge premium on those remaining. I'd quite like one myself, not for profit, but to own.   

  3. Posted · Edited by 1949threepence
    added a bit for clarity

    12 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

    Sorry but i am a bit thick <_<

    Are they saying one can never be sold even in a few years.

    There are lots of trials being sold now and previously of other years DNW sold a  20p one not long ago....from memory ?.

    Funnily enough, I was just thinking the same, Pete. I know that trial coins from the past are bought and sold without a problem. It might be worth hanging onto any of these new £1 trial pieces, that are held privately, until the dust settles and the RM isn't bothered any more. Not sure when that will be. 

  4. Posted

    10 minutes ago, azda said:

    Yes, but funny when i asked DNW about it they left it and no email reply. If someone had of bought that it could have been an expensive learning curve, whoever consigned it will be p****d off as well i bet, DNW will have to send it to the mint

    Well that just typifies many business concerns. They will ignore the ordinary punter's query, regardless of its validity, probably without even a check. Only choosing to act immediately, on the diktat of a huge government office. 

    As you say, the coin itself will probably be returned to the Royal MInt by DNW, with no recompense for the vendor. 

     

  10. Posted · Edited by 1949threepence

    Crikey :o I never expected to get a reply from the RM this quick, but here's my question:-

     

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    Comment: Hi - Are the trial bi metallic £1 coins shown in the forthcoming DNW auction genuine, and if so, is it legal to sell them - here's the web address taking you directly to the item in question - https://www.dnw.co.uk/auctions/catalogue/lot.php?auction_id=443&lot_id=1111&search=1

    and here's their answer:- 

     
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    ----- Original Message -----
    To: 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 4:43 PM
    Subject: RE: E-mail Submission from www.royalmint.com
     

    Thank you for your email

     

    The coin illustrated is a trial coin and should not be sold. Thank you for bringing this to our attention

     

    Kind Regards

     

    Customer Services

     

    So there you have it chaps. Dave's informant was spot on. Shouldn't be sold.

    ETA: Not sure why the time of the e mail is showing as 4.43pm, when it should be 9.43pm? Or maybe it's correct, and they replied almost immediately, as I doubt there'd be any staff on duty this late. I'd only just checked my e mails, so it was probably sitting there for hours, unread.  

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    5 hours ago, Nordle11 said:

    That's sensible bidding there Ian, something some of us should observe sometimes :D 

    Snipe can mean sitting there and clicking a few seconds before the auction ends, but can also refer to sniping as in placing a bid through a third party site which will bid through your account on your behalf, at a designated time. This is why sometimes even when you snipe with a second to go you still get beaten, the auto snipes can bid it within milliseconds of the auction ending. If you already knew that, I've read your post wrong and I'm sorry -_-

    Yes - didn't there used to be a site called "hammersnipe", which auto bid on your behalf? May still exist.

    If I really want a coin, I leave nothing to chance, and will be there to manually snipe a few seconds before the end. An outrageously high bid at that point will not only win it, but take your winning bid amount to just the next level above the second high bid, and because you can see in the seconds before your bid, what everybody else is bidding, makes it more unlikely that another outrageously high bid will also be made in those final few seconds, independent of yours. Possible, but unlikely.      

     

     

  13. Posted

    12 minutes ago, azda said:

    Ebay are currently pulling these from auctions at the request of the Royal Mint, the mint are stating that they are Government property. I have sent a request to DNW regarding the one they have in sale and asking if the Trial strike they are selling can be legally sold, no answer as yet

    Interesting. Do you have anything from the Royal Mint confirming this? 

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    8 hours ago, RLC35 said:

     

    Ever since Clinton and the impeachment issue, our country has been bitterly divided along Party lines. Bush Jr made it worse, and Obama has led a directionless Presidency. In todays election I think most voters are voting against someone rather than for some one. I am supporting Trump. as the lesser of two evils. This has been the most unusual election in my lifetime....interesting though! :)

    Bill Clinton was President of the United States for 8 years from 1993 to 2001 - and in all that time, the only line I can recall him saying was "I did not have sexual relations with that woman......Miss Lewinsky" :o   

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  17. Posted

    2 hours ago, azda said:

    You're missing the point completely Michael, the majority are being recruited through the internet already live in the UK and are English born, so blaming migrants is ridiculous, you are blaming them for a problem that already existed

    I don't think so, David. I'm well aware that ISIS does recruit in this country via internet radicalisation. We've obviously already seen many go to Syria to serve alongside IS. But that does not negate the fact that there are terrorists embedded within migrants arriving in Europe - link. That's not blaming migrants per se. I've no doubt the vast majority are decent people who want to start a new life. But it is pointing out a risk of importing terrorism. Even Merkel has admitted that terrorists are among the migrants entering Europe - further link

    All the above is quite apart from the other non terrorist related factors I mentioned earlier.

    This one of the reasons why the majority in England voted out, and why we wouldn't want an open back door via Scotland if they voted for independence in a Sturgeon inspired second referendum, and stayed in the EU. But they'll have to be quick. Article 50 will be invoked early next year, and we'll be out by 2019.  

           

  18. Posted

    1 hour ago, azda said:

    So do you know your terrorist from your common man? The man on the bus/train/plane could also be one, so how do you judge that? My next point is the most crucial one, if you go to war on a country who has done nothing to your nation what do you expect to happen in the long run? America and Britain both seeked out to invade Iraq on BS grounds of WMDs, nothing found, yet so many innocent civilians are being slaughtered and displaced by the UK and American guns and military hardware, if you don't want the immigrants then leave the bloody country alone, the UK and America started this whole people movement yet when those people want protection from OUR OWN WEAPONS you tell them to piss off. Absolute f*****g joke......Sorry, but there are no grounds that the UK should not take these people that their weapons are slaughtering, nor America, they should also be taking a bulk of them.

    Just to add to the point, you said the NHS is buckling, yet there's enough cash for a war, strange one that.....Use the war money to help the NHS, that should add 25,000 nurses and 50 new hospitals......

    No, that's precisely the point, we don't know who is and who is not a terrorist among the migrants.

    As far as the rest of your post, what has happened politically/militarily, is not down to me or any other ordinary bod who voted out. Indeed, I was fully behind the million or so who demonstrated in March 2003 against the Iraqi invasion. All we are concerned about now is our continued safety.

    I'm sure that the USA, and indeed Russia who are now bombing Aleppo and related cities in Syria, could take their fair share of migrants. They are, after all, much bigger than we are.

    The NHS is buckling - who's fault that is or whether it can be improved, I don't know. But the fact remains that right now it is buckling and we have to live with that.  

     

  19. Posted · Edited by 1949threepence

    34 minutes ago, azda said:

    Erm, if you haven't yet realised Michael, the majority of the idiots are being recruited off the internet, and they are English nationals, how do we patrol those borders?

    We don't add to the problem by importing even more into our midst. Especially completely anonymous ones who can disappear into who knows what woodwork as soon as they arrive.

    But the terrorist situation apart, one of the prime reasons for voting out, was the issue of right of free movement for all EU citizens, which would mean that as soon as all those million new migrants in Germany get EU status, as many no doubt will in due course, any number of them are free to come here. As we already have a health service buckling at the seams and a housing/accommodation crisis of massive proportions, we really can't afford to take in too many more.     

     

  20. Posted · Edited by 1949threepence

    1 hour ago, azda said:

    Ozjohn, your first and second paragraph i agree with you. Now i'll head into the 3rd. As a possible part of the EU and still part of the UK and EU at the minute there is no controlled borders within the EU. True of course it would probably be controlled for other parts of the UK, but this isn't a certainty as no one knows what will happen in the future, but just now as we remain as part of the UK and so still part of the EU we have uncontrolled borders regarding immigrants, the immigration issue isn't really an issue for the Scots as we are welcoming them with open arms.

    As for the EU interfering in the legal system, well they do that now as we are part of the UK and therefor part of the EU, whether Scotland would have to use the euro would be open for debate as the UK didn't use it and as part of the UK Scotland didn't either, so the only surviving point in your 3rd paragraph is if Scotland would survive as an independent state, who knows......

    Which would be fine with an independent Scotland, as it would be Scotland's choice. The problem would then be the open border, along which migrants would be free to just walk or drive across unimpeded, possibly with attendant ISIS sleeper cells embedded in them. I'd rather we didn't see a Hungarian style barbed wire topped fence, stretching from the Irish Sea to the North Sea, not to mention constant shipping patrols either side, but it may have to come to that.   

    Come to think about it, we've also got the open border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic to consider about as well. 

     

  22. Posted

    27 minutes ago, azda said:

    Cars? Most of which are foreign., with the decrease will they pull out, Minimight  if there's a hard Brexit

    Gold? There are no mines in he UK and Gordon Brown sold all of the assets from the BoE

    Petrolium, ok, but the UK imports gas....

    As far as gold, the stats are there as quoted. I agree with you about gas, and it does seem tragic that we ran down our reserves just to produce electricity, after all the old coal fired power stations were shut. Just as well that fracking has got the green light.   

    I'm sure we will pull through and ultimately prosper, whatever short term problems may arise. The Bremain side is full of doom and gloomers.  

    However, I hope Nicola Sturgeon does get her wish of a second independence referendum, so that if Scotland wishes to stay in the EU they can. I'm all for Scotland's independence, especially as they have 56 SNP's in parliament, for a fraction of the votes ukip got, for just one MP.     

  24. Posted

    Just looking through Freeman's book "The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain" 1985 edition, I was struck by the fact that there is no attribution for a Freeman 75, except that a small notation appears, which reads "See p 19". But on turning to page 19, there is no obvious reference to a 75  

    There are others, such as the Freeman 144, 151 & 152. They all say "see p 19", and the latter two also have rarity 18 against them.

    Is anybody able to cast any light on what might or should appear on page 19?

    Thanks.

     

       

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