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1949threepence

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  1. I've certainly never received one in my change. It's difficult to know about the mintage figures. I suppose you could always e mail the Royal Mint. But if you do, don't hold your breath waiting for a reply. I'm still waiting for a reply to one I sent last Summer.
  2. Although original effigy '26s turned up quite regularly, I never saw an ME in ciculation and even though it was probably 40+ years ago, I'm still envious! At the end though, I think you actually stood more chance of picking up an ME than a KN as you really had to be in the know to clock one. Any fool could spot a KN. Oh you're absolutely right. And this particular fool didn't even know his first 1926 even was a ME until he'd had it around a year Strangely, most of my schoolmate collectors (a small and happy band!) got 1950 pennies from circulation, which made me jealous as hell. In those far off days, 1950 / 1951 pennies were considered bigtime desirable. But looking back, I wouldn't swap for my ME... Understandable considering the 240,000/120,000 respective mintages. But they are childishly easy to obtain now, at a reasonable price, even at high grade.
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    advice on buying

    Credit where it's due, although I think I've bought very little from Cambridge Coins, I have generally thought their grading stood up to scrutiny. Run by a guy called Dave Allen who, as far as I know, is absolutely no relation! Well you're the undoubted expert on grading, Derek. I certainly wouldn't argue with your conclusions
  4. Nice coin which I'd grade as NEF/EF, with the reverse being marginally the better. The three lions show what looks like some very slight wear, but this may be due to a soft strike. Not sure. I don't think the coin has been cleaned either. I've noticed that cleaned coins tend to have many, many hairline lines, all going in one even direction. The scratches on the coin shown are not overly numerous, and they look random. As ever, it's all up for debate, and I may be wrong, as may others.
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    advice on buying

    I think many of the online coins look slightly overgraded, as well as overpriced. That's when a photo is even available. Good choice available though. Yes If you can point me to a seller who does not overgrade and overprice I would be grateful, it seems a bit of a minefield out there. Where do you buy your coins? If you don't mind me asking. Oh, they don't all do that. Many dealers are very punctilious in ensuring a fair grading and price. A few positively undergrade on some of their coins. I mostly use e bay and some dealers I've got to know over the years. I have bought one coin from online coins (Cambridge coins), which was good value. Not saying that all the coins on there are overgraded/priced. It's just a general observation.
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    Edward VII shilling variants

    Yep, and he wants £500 for it as a "buy it now" or best offer ~ see it here I'm not sure it's worth it. Over 6 months have elapsed, and it's still for sale @ £500 Evidently not perceived as a bargain.
  7. Whilst researching Edward VII shillings in readiness for me attempting to complete my 1902 to 36 collection with the rarest and most expensive of the set, I came across these variants listed by Gouby. The 1904 type 2a is from an original finding by Dave Webb of "onewebby" the e bay coin vendor. He is right except that in the period from 1907 to 1910, the R's (as far as I can tell), mostly revert to the straight shortened version seen in the 1903 variant, listed as type 2a, not as per obverse 2. Apologies if this has already been noted elsewhere. link here
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    1895 Penny

    my snipe was 20th bid .. £26 David Just as a matter of interest David, was it touted by the vendor as a wide/unusual looking date, or just put up as an ordinary 1895 ?
  9. 1949threepence

    advice on buying

    I think many of the online coins look slightly overgraded, as well as overpriced. That's when a photo is even available. Good choice available though.
  10. 1949threepence

    1895 Penny

    Well spotted gap between 9 and 5. Was there much bidding for it ?
  11. Ok, chaps, gather round. Now I vote we start digging a tunnel under scott's bunk, and hide the spoil in our turn ups. Any coins we find while digging, we turn over to the Senior Officer, who will decide who gets it. The Coin, I mean. Everyone clear on that? Shhh. I hear Jerry coming. Ok chaps, out with your Railway Modeller magazines. For you, Englander, ze var is over Seriously though, interesting & very unusual pieces, Scott. Freistadt, of course, is "Freetown", literal translation.
  12. Gordon Bennett Never thought I'd read such weird script on a coin forum.
  13. 1949threepence

    Lowest Serial Note I've Ever Seen...!

    And "lasts" as well; a banknote print run might go from serial number AA00 000001 (first prefix) to say GE12 345678 (last prefix). Many collectors aim for a representative "first and last" with as low a serial number as possible from each print run. Any prefixes between first and last aren't that interesting and the first hundred or so notes from the AA00 run go to places like the Bank of England museum, the Queen's private collection and then various banking big-wigs. All way over my head though, I once went to an IBNS conference in London where a pal was going into extacies of delight over an UNC old "luncheon voucher" £1 note with a particularly rare "replacement" prefix that he'd just picked up from a dealer for £200. Does "£200 for a £1 note" beat "£400 for a penny"? :-) What is worth looking at is the nice fresh UNC notes that you get out of cash dispensers for interesting number combinations that collectors will pay a premium for, such as repeaters i.e 123123 or pairs i.e 556677 or radar i.e 123321. But the odds of finding one are like winning the lottery, I've checked every note coming out of a hole in the wall for the past 15 years and the nearest I've seen is a partial radar, something like 456651. If you ever see one, keep it and for God's sake DON'T FOLD IT! Now if I had this prefix and serial on a Bank of England note, I'd be laughing... That's exactly what I do, and when I drew out a tenner recently with the serial No HA27 444450, I was tempted to re-insert my card and draw out another £60 to get the 444444, given that new notes always seem to come out of the dispenser numerically in reverse. I later wished I had done, as I was the only one there, and had more than ample time.
  14. Hi Rory, No doubt someone will answer your other questions, but with specific regard to cleaning, let me say that this is an art form, which is not easily mastered. You can easily reduce value by cleaning if you are not extremely careful. Also, it is often very obvious when a coin has been cleaned. I'd restrict yourself to wiping off any excess dirt/debris with a damp cloth and warm soapy water. Remember that's only for superficial dirt. You are not going to be able to get rid of a century old stain, for example, without radically altering the overall appearance of the coin, which is not desirable.
  15. One of the images below is listed as an 1858 5 over 3 overstrike, and the other a plain 1858. But quite honestly I can't tell the difference. Can anybody point me in the right direction & what points to look for. Cheers guys
  16. Yes, and I think it leans slightly more towards the 5, than the non overstrike examples. Thanks azda. I really appreciate your time and effort. Hope others can possibly benefit from this too.
  17. Which makes it all the more amazing that after waiting months as a schoolkid collector in the late 60s for ANY 1926 penny, my first should have turned out to be a ME ! I only ever found one more after that, in 3 or 4 years. Both times, incredibly, in change, not among the huge number of pennies checked in 25p bags from banks. Strangely Gouby only rates it as S4 (scarce) as opposed to the 1946 mint flaw which gets the next highest rating, R5 (rare). You were very lucky indeed to get not just one, but two, in your change over 4 years. It must have been diffiuclt enough to get an ordinary 1926 penny, let alone an ME. Of course, there might be a really high grade example in some long forgotten moneybox from the 1920's hidden away in some equally forgotten chest, in a hardly entered attic somewhere, just waiting for me to discover it..... .....Ah well, a chap can dream
  18. 1949threepence

    Grading clarification?

    Yes, despite the small images, that's a good point well made. I have two 1901 Unc pennies - one almost BU with that pale straw toning to the lustre, and a fingerprint on the reverse. The other is also technically Unc, but has an overall rich dark tone with some lingering lustre that is such a deep red colour, it's utterly gorgeous. When I get a chance I will try to post scans. I'll look forward to seeing them.
  19. 1949threepence

    Heads Up

    Crikey Some serious losses and thefts there. Certainly highlights the need for security at all times, especially in the transportation and posting of coins. Thanks for the link.
  20. Cheers azda, I'll be interested to see it Thanks for your time.
  21. Incidentally, in all the above, I did of course mean 8/3, not 5 !!!
  22. Such is the problem with e bay images on occasions. A close up of the date is often needed. I wasn't singling you out, by the way. Yours just happened to be about the best image of the several 1858 5/3 overstrikes that were on offer. I was merely using it as a comparison.
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    "Rare" and "Scarce"

    That's always been my understanding as well. A phrase I'm seeing more and more regularly these days is, "rare/scarce in this grade", which is very true. It's often comparatively easy to get lower grade coins of a given year, even up to NEF, but incredibly difficult to get a true BU example. Peckris referred to the 1926 ME penny, which is a very obvious example (probably along with the 1918 & 1919KN), and my own recent collecting has placed both the 1921 & 1930 BU shillings, firmly into such a sliding scale category.
  24. 1949threepence

    Grading clarification?

    And above all, learn to appreciate the subtle distinctions that make a high grade coin individually unique and beautiful. For example : • patina, a gorgeous even colouration on bronze coins, which to my mind is far superior to patchy uneven lustre • toning, which can be utterly superb on silver coins, rich blues, olive, rainbow, reds BU is rated in catalogues as the highest of the high when it comes to condition. In terms of being closest to original mint state, that may be literally true, but then look at auction results or dealers' lists, and you will often see a toned coin coming in at a higher price than a BU. As long as the toning is attractive of course ... there are some dogs out there. Totally agree about toning, which can make a sub unc coin look utterly superb. My 1900 GEF penny looks amazingly attractive, with darker areas merging smoothly over traces of lustre on both sides, to create a very pleasing mellow effect. Yet my technically uncirculated 1895, has a dirty lustre indicative of about 2 to 4 years general circulation, and the fingerprints so common on slightly used bronze coins. Not nearly as attractive. Compare & contrast:-
  25. GVF with traces of lustre - very nice! I saw one with light green patina, no lustre, but more detail (say, a weak EF?) go for around £330 at W&W in 2002. That one pictured should - now - fetch at least the same? Certainly no less than £250, maybe twice that. Or even more! "Or even more" I'd say. It's the rarity which is quite staggering. We're almost at the stage where it's easier to get a higher grade 1869 penny (there's one in the online coins site somewhere. Or there was in February when I looked, anyway), than it is to get a high grade 1926 ME penny. You just never see them anywhere, at any price. Even the low grade ones have become scarce.
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