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  1. Also shows up in my1968 3rd edition (footnote at bottom of page 93). Since the reign of Edward VII began on January 22, 1901 it seems possible that this was produced during testing of the new obverse die sometime in 1901, then escaped the Royal Mint and eventually ended up in circulation... Best Regards, InforaPenny
  2. Diaconis, You are correct in that it is not Freeman Obv 1. It is instead a rare 'early obverse' pattern type that was rejected by Queen Victoria on 4 July 1860, but had already been used in some trial coining runs at the Royal Mint. Fortunately for us bronze penny variety collectors, these were not destroyed but were later released for circulation. Best Regards, InforaPenny
  3. It's 1** + C from a known pairing of working dies (British Numismatic Journal vol. 87, page 197)... Best Regards, InforaPenny
  4. Rob, This is an impressive piece of numismatic detective work! Congratulations! Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    Recessed ear 1915/16 penny

    In my opinion, this variety is from multiple dies that were produced using a puncheon (or hub) with a chipped tooth. It doesn't seem plausible to me that this could be due to a filled die... Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    The 1861 Freeman 19 penny

    I acquired one of the very worn ex-Freeman examples of F-19 in a Croydon Coin auction lot with some other pennies many years ago for a few pounds. The late Laurie Bamford told me that he had obtained this F-19 (?) with other worn pennies from Freeman’s survey collection. He did not believe it was F-19, and I agree… while it is clearly Obverse 2 the reverse appears to be D not F in my opinion. This seems to be confirmed by the apparent position of the final date numeral (only partly visible) that matches that of one of the F-18 (2+D) pennies in my reference collection. I should still have this coin somewhere along with the coin flip with F-19 (?) written on it by Laurie, but I’m not sure where. Hope this helps… Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    1922 "Dot" Penny

    This 1922 trident dot variety is both interesting and unusual. However, it should be pointed out that the likely origin of the raised dot on this coin is rust on the die. Such rust can lead to a circular pit in the hardened steel die, resulting in a round dot when the coin is struck. This has recently been studied in some detail, and below is a link to this article in the Journal of the Numismatic Association of Australia. http://www.numismatics.org.au/pdfjournal/Vol27/vol-27-article-1.pdf Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    Hiram Brown

    I knew Hiram through Laurie Bamford, another great old-timer in the world of pennies. Visited his shop in Edinburgh on West Crosscauseway (a hike up from the train station) in December 2004, and met up with him for coffee at Coinex in 2007. As Rob implied …lots of stories, he was quite a character… R.I.P. Hiram InforaPenny
  9. I have been working on an article on the raised dots occasionally seen on predecimal bronze coinage and hoped to updated one of my references from an earlier version of the Spink catalogue, to the 2016 catalogue (published late last year). What I need is updated catalogue values for the 1897 bronze penny, both the ordinary 1897 type and the 1897 O’NE flawed (with dot) in VF, EF and UNC. I also need the catalogue page number where this is listed. Your help will be much appreciated… Best Regards, InforaPenny
  10. Thanks secret santa! That is exactly what I needed. I won't use these values directly in my article, but want to mention the magnitude of the premium for the 'with dot' variety. Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    RIP Chet Krause

    Long and careful study of his 1981 edition of World Coins is what led me to focus on collecting on British bronze pennies... and later on to some other British Commonwealth series. I remain grateful to him and his work.
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    More Pennies

    Probably repeatedly passed through rollers between pieces of leather to gradually flatten it out. I seem to remember a similar Australian penny mentioned in Australian Coin Review from many years ago... Best Regards, InforaPenny
  13. I think we’re on the same page mrbadexample. In fact the wear on my 1903 and 1904 halfcrowns is remarkably similar to yours. The wear to the lettering on my 1905 is similar to your 1904 on the right side, but only the HO shows on the left with wear at the bottom of the date to the rim, unlike the 1903 and 1904. Best Regards, InforaPenny
  14. Hi ozjohn, Thanks for your suggestion. The Classic Coins site certainly shows a nice selection of high quality images of British silver. For now, I’ll probably stick to my plan of upgrading here and there as opportunity presents itself. My dilemma is that while my 1903-1905 halfcrowns are in reasonable condition, they are not high grade and I’m not sure it makes sense to try to upgrade them. Of these, the best is the 1903. In assessing the condition of 1902-1927 halfcrowns, I generally look first at the letters of the motto on the reverse. On my 1903 coin the P of PENCE is worn but fully visible, but the I of HONI has worn away. As a result, my initial goal is to upgrade the other halfcrowns in my set (except from 1904-1905) to roughly this condition or better. Since I live in the US, shipping can be expensive, so I’ve mostly been looking over here. In any case, I still view this as a side collection, driven mainly by the difficulty and expense of adding to or upgrading my British predecimal bronze, especially the pennies. Best Regards, InforaPenny
  15. Very nice coin! While I am primarily a collector of British and Australian predecimal bronze by variety, I’ve also recently considered collecting 20th century predecimal British silver coins, especially halfcrowns. As a starting point, I was fortunate enough some year ago in acquiring at one go a virtually complete 20th century set (by year and type) of shillings through halfcrowns at a Noble Numismatics auction in Melbourne. Condition is mixed, varying from VG to Unc, so I been looking at upgrading these to examples in about VF or better condition where possible, and at adding some of the more significant varieties. Any advice/thoughts on this or a recounting of experiences of other collectors of these coins would be very welcome… Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    any british west african collectors?

    Mr T, Thanks for posting this... I also have an interest in BWA coins. Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    Literature recommendations

    I have found the Coincraft catalogue, last published in 2000, to be a useful reference and guide for collecting UK coins. This includes Collecting Hints for virtually all types and series... Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    1865 Farthing 8/8 ?

    Although I'm not a farthing specialist, this looks like the scarce "large 8" 1862 farthing to me. Worth a premium even in low grade. Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    More Pennies

    Alfnail, Nice analysis of the reverse working dies of one of my favorite coins! Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    More Pennies

    Looks like a1922 proof penny from the South African set...
  21. scott, The book you want is: A New History of the Royal Mint published by the Cambridge University Press in 1992 editied by C. E. Challis Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    More Pennies

    rashenley2, You have an absolutely fabulous collection... thanks for posting the link! Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    1860 Mule Halfpenny

    The halfpenny mule was illustrated in the 1984 Freeman sale catalogue, and this coin exactly corresponds to the image shown by Bernie. Best Regards, InforaPenny
  24. The 6 of the date doesn't look right to me. It seems too narrow... Makes me wonder if is an altered date 1927? Best Regards, InforaPenny
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    More Pennies

    Mr T, Freeman's survey results are published in his first book The Victorian Bronze Penny (1860-1901). The was privately published by Freeman in 1964 (and again in 1966 as a second edition, which was essentially the same). The survey covered some 50,000 circulated Victorian bronze pennies, of which 15,653 were bun pennies with readable dates. These were mostly acquired via an arrangement where Freeman went through coins collected by a Scottish bus company. This helped insure that they were a fairly random sample of coins that were in circulation before the great interest in pre-decimal pennies that started with decimalization. This is by far the largest survey conducted that I know of, and can never be repeated. This became the basis for Freeman's rarity ratings in his later books. These slim books with only about 38 pages, are scarce today. You might be able to find a copy in a library. Best Regards, InforaPenny