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Posts posted by Bronze & Copper Collector
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Aside from the obvious differences of Freeman numbers, there are also at least these 4 different variations of position of the H beneath the date.....
H Touching 1st 8
H Touching 2nd 8
H Central & HIGH
H Central & LOW
I have examples of all 4, but haven't had the opportunity to take pictures of them yet.... The description is obvious enough, but if you need images, I'll try to get around to it later on.......
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I am sure jealous of you two and perhaps having seen the coins yourselves. How would these rate to the Colin Adams bits?
Hopefully we'll all soon get to see these coins. Didn't the Colin Adams sale also have a 1933 Lavrillier pattern penny, which was featured on the cover of the catalogue?
Yes.... Could be the same one... I don't know for sure.....
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I am sure jealous of you two and perhaps having seen the coins yourselves. How would these rate to the Colin Adams bits?I never saw the collection, but am aware of the quality of the coins that he sought........
PS: The quality of the Colin Adams collection was excellent ( I have his F-21), and this is excellent too.... I'm not sure how extensive it is, although I know it covers quite a bit.....
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It's a SUPERB COLLECTION, with some GREAT RARITIES..... Including a 1933
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I'm glad you told me that! I've put 'collecting sovereigns by die number' on the backburner for a few years now. I guess i'll just leave it there, although i did have my doubts as to how good an approach that was.Although to be honest i got pulled in by hammered before i managed to get back collecting sovereigns and once the hammered bug gets you milled becomes a bit of a bore. So maybe i'm safe? Yeah safe in the realms of the 12th century! That's safe?
Safer than actually living in the 12th century and collecting contemporary coinage......... LOL!!
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We're you expecting a letter from the Queen? I'm not sure she checks here that often.
She should for crying out loud, think about it, her image is on more coins than any other person in history.
True, but it hasn't ALWAYS been a FLATTERING portrait
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Your presidents wife probably has more respect for her than the current president!Not to mention his dog.... But let's not get into a political discussion..... It can get very messy... LOL!!!!
Talk about mangling the English language!!!!!!!!
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We're you expecting a letter from the Queen? I'm not sure she checks here that often.Not really, even though I have more respect for her than our current president.......
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A small fish in a big pond, but I had to take note of my 100th post.....
so long as I don't strain my arm, patting myself on the back....
LOL!!!!
Congrats, many happy returns!
Thanks
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A small fish in a big pond, but I had to take note of my 100th post.....
so long as I don't strain my arm, patting myself on the back....
LOL!!!!
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Look at Athenian Owl Tetradrachms! Timeless.You're holding HISTORY in your hands......
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I'm with Geordie on this! The old stuff rules.You can never top the old classics......
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Don't you love Ebay ...luverly obverse...all the nicks and scratches have worn off.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1891-BRITISH-PENNY-R...1QQcmdZViewItem
Not to mention part of the date... It's a Veiled Head.. has to be between 1895 and 1901... UNLESS it's a VERY RARE AND UNDISCOVERED PATTERN!!!!!
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No modern coinage is included...
Farthing collection from 1672-1956
Half Penny Collection from 1672-1970
Penny Collection from 1797-1970
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collection really expanded in the last 8 years or so, with more time to spend on it and the internet opening the world......
PS: I've NEVER been considered NORMAL..... LOL!!!
I'm with you, but the keeness to aquire is not backed by the necessary modern coinage!
No modern coinage is included...
Farthing collection from 1672-1956
Half Penny Collection from 1672-1970
Penny Collection from 1797-1970
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54 here, collecting since 1960... started with US coins, penny folders.... expanded a bit to some other US series...
about 1970 or so, I started collecting Great Britain..... sold off everything but the copper and bronze.... had a complete shilling and sixpence set, but applied the proceeds to what interested me most.......
collection really expanded in the last 8 years or so, with more time to spend on it and the internet opening the world......
PS: I've NEVER been considered NORMAL..... LOL!!!
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i was looking at a site a few people speak about in this forum called www.michael-coins.co.uki noticed that he has list of coins hes selling along with info on die errors and the diferent dies used for the coin and that date,and he uses large images so you can see the differences between dies
so i pulled out my coin collection and started to right down what coins had die errors and what obv & rev types they had,i found once i pulled out my mini microscope that i had a few die errors coin and some coins that had rare obv & rev die mix
the problem is i want to look more into this but he only lists the info and images for the coins hes selling,
dose anyone know of any sites or books,sites would be better there free where i can find this info
i know theres one book on penny die's and die errors but its £30 just for that one book
any help would be great
thanx
den
Michael Gouby authored an EXCELLENT book which he refers to on his website..... And is deovted to just the BRONZE PENNIES....
Michael Freeman's book, last published in 1985, with a reprint reported to be in the works, is the accepted authority on BRONZE coinage
Peck is the accepted work on Copper, Bronze, and Tin....
There is also the SATIN reference (by John Jerrams), which covers BRONZE PENNIES from 1860-1865
NONE of these as ABSOLUTELY COMPLETE, as there are just too many minor varieties to be catalogued.....
Most of the minor variants have no significant premium, although there ARE several EXTREMELY RARE varieties that do command an EXTREME PREMIUM..... and of course there are those that fall between....
I specialize primarily in BRONZE pennies and half-pennies, although I also collect farthings and the same denominations in Copper also......
Please feel free to contact me, if I can be of any assistance...... PM me and I'll give you my email address, and you can send me any images that you need to....
Best of Luck.....
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HI Alan,
Thanks for quoting me.... but did you also want to leave a message???
If so, it never got posted along with the quote....
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Looking for one of these.Condition wanted -just clear letters.Price-let me know.ThanksI have one in a complete whitman classic album (1860-1901).... I'd like to sell it as a set....
The F-14 has had someones initials scratched into the surface, but would otherwise have vf/ef details....
I'm looking for $900 for the set....
I can email you more details and images if you're interested... but I would need you email address....
Why not JOIN this forum, and we can PM each other the information.... This is an EXCELLENT forum, with many helpful users ready to assist each other.....
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In 1908 there were 3 Obverse dies & 2 Reverse dies, used in 4 combinations...
Obv. 1 I of IND to tooth; I of IMP to gap
Obv. 1* I of IND to gap; (BRITT) : to tooth
Obv. 2 I of IND to tooth; I of IMP to tooth
Rev. c E of PENNY to tooth
Rev. d E of PENNY to gap
F-164 Obverse 1, Reverse C
F-164A Obverse 1*, Reverse C (the RARE one)
F-165 Obverse 2, Reverse C
F-166 Obverse 2, Reverse D
See attached scans.....
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Being Ridiculously Optimistic (otherwise known as "Fantasyland")
and it has to have cost a lot to list them too....
1860 Penny N over Z
in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
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It's apparently not THAT rare, although admittedly still scarce...... I've owned about 8-10 over the years, between upgrading etc.... and have found 4 or 5 of them...... All in varying condition, from a well worn good to a nice EF+ (US grading standard).....
Much like the F-14, Scarce but not rare....I've also owned about 8-10 of those, and have found all but 3.......