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  2. Posted · Edited by Bronze & Copper Collector

    I'm not sure if this has been reported before.

    An 1860 F-10 penny with a repunched R & I in VICTORIA.  Second punch on both is at a slight angle to the first.

    Additionally, in the image, it appears that the A in VICTORIA is an inverted V. I believe that to be a false impression of the photography. Quite candidly though, I can't really tell if the crossbar of the A is just crud, very faint, or actually missing.

    Pictures to follow.

    Your thoughts and opinions please.

     

    1860 F-10 R over R, I over I OBVERSE reduced.jpg

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  8. Posted

    I am posting close-ups of the back of Victoria's head and of the base of her bust.

    On both specimens there is s distinct gap between the back of Victoria's head and the B of Britt, thereby precluding it being an obverse 6.

    Upon examining the base of Victoria's bust, I see no trace of LC WYON appearing in any position which would indicate either obverse 2, 3, or 4.  Ergo, by eliminating the other obverses and by having the space where it would be without exhibiting the signature, I would determine both coins to be an obverse 5. 

    Coin 1, behind Victoria's head

    Coin-01 close-up behind head.jpg

  9. Posted

    5 minutes ago, secret santa said:

    You sold me this penny  as probably the first suggestion of the existence of the F27. You'll see that the top of the gap between helmet plume and head is very narrow and appears to me to be smaller than your examples. But it's a brave man that makes a firm decision.

     

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    I remember that coin Richard. It was sold to me by Laurie Bamford, with the tickets from the Freeman auction as Michael Freemans F-27. THAT coin I'm sure of.

    In rexamining my posting, I'm now leaning toward the 2nd coin being more of a possibility of being a reverse F with the narrow gap. I'm a little more hesitant with the first coin now.  At least I have an undisputable F-27 in my collection.

    I'm just re-reviewing coins I put aside a long time ago as possibles. Still learning, still searching for varieties, and still looking for an F-19 (among others)

     

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  13. Posted · Edited by Bronze & Copper Collector

    I have 2 pennies that are extremely poor condition that I think might be reverse f's.

    Both obverse 5's.

    It might just be wishful thinking. Or simply going blurry eyed looking at minutiae on myriad coins.

    Any and all opinions appreciated.

    Thank you.

    Coin 1 reverse

    Coin-01 reverse.jpg

  16. Posted

    37 minutes ago, mrbadexample said:

    Note to self: look harder. :lol: 

    I thought the die crack above the R matched but can now see it's in a different place. I don't see a flaw in the forehead where I would expect to see one for obverse 5 though.

    Obverse 5 does not always display the flaw in the forehead, however every obverse 5 I have seen has the scalloped top center leaf, whereas I have never seen that top center scalloped leaf on any other obverse than on an obverse 5.

    I would not necessarily use the die crack above the R as a determinant, however I believe that there is enough other evidence to confirm the obverse as an obverse 6.

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  17. Posted

    33 minutes ago, Zo Arms said:

    I knew what you meant.

    I put a lot of faith in the REG F D colons as it's usually all I have to work with.

    They are saying to me, obverse 6. Definitely not 7. And REG to far from circle to be a 4.

    Re the flaw above the R in reg. If I'm looking at yours correctly, it appears to be above the hollow of the R whereas on mine and Bernie's it's above the leg.

    For some reason the top leaves and the forehead are shouting 5 at me?

    I see no reason why there shouldn't be a 5 + F out there.

    I can fully understand the problems I present to these pages now.

    Hi Bob,

    Thanks for the input.

    Regarding the possibility of obverse 5, I dismissed that option because the coin in question does not have the scalloped top center leaf that I have seen on all obverse 5 specimens whether or not they have the indentation flaw on the forehead. Conversely, I have not seen that scalloped top center leaf on any other obverse other than an obverse 5.

    Ergo, in my opinion,  it is not an obverse 5.

  19. Posted · Edited by Bronze & Copper Collector

    8 hours ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said:

    I'd like a second opinion on what I believe to be another 1861 6 & b half penny. Although low grade, I think it can be identified. It is NOT an obverse 7.

    It appears to have the die break above the R in REG as well as a bit more of the O in HONI SO. Additionally, although difficult to capture in an image, I think there is evidence of a double incuse line. All indicative of an obverse 6.

    All comments appreciated.

    Thank you

     

     

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    Sorry, all.

    I'm unable to edit, but I did intend to say Obverse 6, and reverse F as previously discussed...

    Thank you

  25. Posted

    I'd like a second opinion on what I believe to be another 1861 6 & b half penny. Although low grade, I think it can be identified. It is NOT an obverse 7.

    It appears to have the die break above the R in REG as well as a bit more of the O in HONI SO. Additionally, although difficult to capture in an image, I think there is evidence of a double incuse line. All indicative of an obverse 6.

    All comments appreciated.

    Thank you

     

     

    20220224_211143.jpg

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