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  3. Posted

    37 minutes ago, mrbadexample said:

    Note to self: look harder. :lol: 

    I thought the die crack above the R matched but can now see it's in a different place. I don't see a flaw in the forehead where I would expect to see one for obverse 5 though.

    Obverse 5 does not always display the flaw in the forehead, however every obverse 5 I have seen has the scalloped top center leaf, whereas I have never seen that top center scalloped leaf on any other obverse than on an obverse 5.

    I would not necessarily use the die crack above the R as a determinant, however I believe that there is enough other evidence to confirm the obverse as an obverse 6.

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    33 minutes ago, Zo Arms said:

    I knew what you meant.

    I put a lot of faith in the REG F D colons as it's usually all I have to work with.

    They are saying to me, obverse 6. Definitely not 7. And REG to far from circle to be a 4.

    Re the flaw above the R in reg. If I'm looking at yours correctly, it appears to be above the hollow of the R whereas on mine and Bernie's it's above the leg.

    For some reason the top leaves and the forehead are shouting 5 at me?

    I see no reason why there shouldn't be a 5 + F out there.

    I can fully understand the problems I present to these pages now.

    Hi Bob,

    Thanks for the input.

    Regarding the possibility of obverse 5, I dismissed that option because the coin in question does not have the scalloped top center leaf that I have seen on all obverse 5 specimens whether or not they have the indentation flaw on the forehead. Conversely, I have not seen that scalloped top center leaf on any other obverse other than an obverse 5.

    Ergo, in my opinion,  it is not an obverse 5.

  6. Posted · Edited by Bronze & Copper Collector

    8 hours ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said:

    I'd like a second opinion on what I believe to be another 1861 6 & b half penny. Although low grade, I think it can be identified. It is NOT an obverse 7.

    It appears to have the die break above the R in REG as well as a bit more of the O in HONI SO. Additionally, although difficult to capture in an image, I think there is evidence of a double incuse line. All indicative of an obverse 6.

    All comments appreciated.

    Thank you

     

     

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    Sorry, all.

    I'm unable to edit, but I did intend to say Obverse 6, and reverse F as previously discussed...

    Thank you

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    I'd like a second opinion on what I believe to be another 1861 6 & b half penny. Although low grade, I think it can be identified. It is NOT an obverse 7.

    It appears to have the die break above the R in REG as well as a bit more of the O in HONI SO. Additionally, although difficult to capture in an image, I think there is evidence of a double incuse line. All indicative of an obverse 6.

    All comments appreciated.

    Thank you

     

     

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  13. Posted · Edited by Bronze & Copper Collector

    I have a recollection of somebody MANY YEARS ago having images of desirable collectibles (coins, stamps, cards, etc.) as part of the listing; and in a small font and a white or light font color (so as to be virtually unreadable although searchable) the information that " This Auction is for a Photograph of the item imaged and NOT for the item itself.

    A lot of money passed hands from a lot of disappointed, disillusioned, disgusted, and disgruntled buyers. Not sure what the end result was of all the complaints though

    CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!

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  25. Posted · Edited by Bronze & Copper Collector

    6 hours ago, Bernie said:

    I've changed my mind Bob, I now believe that it's Obv 6 with rev F. The "O" of HONI SO does appear to show more of the "O" than obverse 4

    These varieties are very difficult to identify in lower grades.

    Hi Bernie,

    I tend to concur with you, both for the reason you stated and the fact that I think I can see double incuse lines on one of the leaves, which would indicate obverse 6 as oppose to obverse 4.

    Of course, as you state it is very difficult to determine from worn specimens, if at all especially from an image.

    I'll upload images of my 6 & F for comparison.

     

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