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Bronze & Copper Collector

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  1. 6 hours ago, Bernie said:

    I've changed my mind Bob, I now believe that it's Obv 6 with rev F. The "O" of HONI SO does appear to show more of the "O" than obverse 4

    These varieties are very difficult to identify in lower grades.

    Hi Bernie,

    I tend to concur with you, both for the reason you stated and the fact that I think I can see double incuse lines on one of the leaves, which would indicate obverse 6 as oppose to obverse 4.

    Of course, as you state it is very difficult to determine from worn specimens, if at all especially from an image.

    I'll upload images of my 6 & F for comparison.

     


  2. 2 hours ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said:

    I've found the A to the RIGHT of the lighthouse to be the scarcest followed by the B. 

    Die letter A appears to me  to the most common in either of the letter positions to the LEFT of the lighthouse.

    Die letter C follows with same observation regarding either of its two letter positions.

    Die letter B is next scarcest followed the die letter A to right of the lighthouse.

    Years ago I had posted images of these in the forum. Can't seem to find them now. Probably using incorrect search parameters.

     

    I think that this is the link.

    Link to Thread with Images

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  3. 54 minutes ago, copper123 said:

    Die letter C much rarer than the A

    I've found the A to the RIGHT of the lighthouse to be the scarcest followed by the B. 

    Die letter A appears to me  to the most common in either of the letter positions to the LEFT of the lighthouse.

    Die letter C follows with same observation regarding either of its two letter positions.

    Die letter B is next scarcest followed the die letter A to right of the lighthouse.

    Years ago I had posted images of these in the forum. Can't seem to find them now. Probably using incorrect search parameters.

     

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  4. 16 minutes ago, mrbadexample said:

    My preference is nice acid-free 2x2 envelopes. I've never liked flips but that's what they arrived in so I left them. :(

    That works as well.

    It's a matter if personal preference. Some collectors like to view the coin through the flip, others prefer the envelopes with which the argument that it "protects the enclosed coin from light" could be made as well.

    So long as there is NO ACID NOR PVC it is better for the coin, ESPECIALLY PROOFS!!

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  5. 11 minutes ago, jelida said:

    I think the penny is nice, uncirculated but pretty ordinary otherwise, let’s generously say £200 worth. The slab, however, is very rare, you don’t see many MS67 1934 penny slabs and it must be worth at least £1200 to a dedicated slab collector, unless NGC decide to produce some more.

    Jerry

    🙄

    Best answer so far......

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    A Brief History (and Explanation) of the Coin Grading Scale

     
    When you were going to school and received a grade of 70, that was barely passing.  But when a coin receives a grade of 70 from PCGS, NGC, etc. that means it is absolutely perfect. How come?

    We have Dr. William Herbert Sheldon, Jr. (1898 - 1977) to blame for that. In 1948, Dr. Sheldon published “Early American Cents” which contained a novel numerical equivalency system for grades, upon which one could supposedly determine the monetary worth of the coins.

    In developing his system, Dr. Sheldon was attempting to find multipliers of a base value for each grade, with a coin in “Poor” condition assigned a base value of “1.” Thus a coin in Fair condition was assigned a multiplying value of 2, and was therefore thought to be worth twice the value of a coin in Poor condition. Similarly, Sheldon decided that a Fine coin was worth 12 times the value of a Poor example, and so on up to a perfect Mint State specimen, which Sheldon decided was worth 70 times the value of the same coin in Poor quality. So, actually, the Sheldon numbers were not meant to define the quality of coins—but rather to indicate the dollar-value in various grades. 

    Using the original Sheldon system, if a particular year and variety of a Large Cent had a retail value of $50 in Poor quality, it should be worth $600 in Fine or $3,500 in perfect MS-70.
     
     
     
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  7. 3 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

    Agreed. The UK and US have two different grading systems that overlap to some extent. Both use the terms VF and EF for example, though the American equivalents are approximately half a grade lower than the UK equivalent. That's just the way it is. I'd be fine with a US grade of AU being EF by UK standards - it would be logical and perfectly acceptable provided people knew the two systems weren't identical. But to use AU for a condition of 50...!  

    Essentially it is a matter of speaking 2 different languages with identical words with similar yet different meanings. You must know how to translate from one to the other.

    Not much different from the English language used on either side of the pond.

     

    And let us not get into the degradation of the language itself.

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