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Hi forum members, Firstly I want to mention that I have not posted on this forum in quite a while but I read it regularly. These NNC slabbed coins have given me the bug however... Has anyone else noticed a rash of medieval NNC certified coins for sale on ebay at the moment. This one seller has been selling NNC coins of the 2oth century for years and only recently started on these older issues. I've only ever seen NNC coins sold by this one seller and in my humble opinion the grading quality seems casual and inconsistent. Any other opinions out there?, Freewheels. NNC 2.asp.htm

RLC wrote: eBay only allows slabs certified by the following private companies, to be listed as "Certified." ANACS PCGS NGC NCS (division of NGC) PMG Of the above companies, PCGS and NGC are usually considered the "Premium" slabbing companies. I am sure some will disagree on that fact however! LOL! I have some English coins slabbed by NGC, and I think their grading is fair by US standards. The grading is not accurate by UK standards though, so you might want to keep that in mind with US grading companies. eBay does allow pictures of other company slabs, but you cannot list coins as "certified" unless it is one of the above companies (or the Government, and the US Mint). The "pull down menu" for certification does not have any companies, except those listed above! coin watch wrote: Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:54 PM I am not a great believer in slabs of any kind and also not an expert by any means on what is a good slabbing company or a bad one, but I just want to add my recent experience with the NNC slabs. I too have seen a lot of these NNC`s sold by this one ebay seller and as a collector of Charles I Tower hammered it`s not very often you come across a slabbed Chas coins but recently there have been many sold on ebay (US) and as previously said by this one seller. Now I have to admit (with embarrassment) I recently purchased one. I have never purchased a slabbed coin before and thought it would be a novelty to put a low bid on this one particular item, I don`t know why? just boredom I suppose, but to my surprise (and later horrer) I was the winning bidder of the damn thing. It was cheep enough but be warned if you are tempted to buy one go by the photo and judge the condition yourself and please do not spend a lot by the given condition rate. Before I received the coin I did a bit of info serching on this slabbing `company` and what I found out was quite alarming. Apparently there are 4 main well established slabbing companies and a couple more of good stand out of about 20 odd in the US alone, but the most interesting thing was the reliabilty of the `others` with the mentioned NNC coming out as one of the worst if not THE worst. Freewheels: How does ICG stack up (some of their grading opinions look doable to me)? Also a corny question: PCGS AU 58 on a Chas 2 sixpence (without being able to upload pics until my scanner talks to my computer) in UK grading is it NEF or could it make it to EF?

Hi Chris I did visit link and pay 15.49GBP for a signed copy sent to Orpington. I also emailed you personally and haven't heard back so just wanted to know if signed book is on it's way to Orpington. Thanks, freewheels.

Hi Chris and Red, I live in San Francisco Bay Area. I would love buy a signed copy (if still available) off of Chris's web site and send to my sister in Orpington. How would this work? I might have opened an account when I shopped at Chris's previously. Hope this can work, freewheels.

This is too funny! I live in a San Francisco suburb now but I grew up in Orpington and went to Bromley Grammar School in the late 60's. (Bromley Grammar on Hayes Lane now Ravensbourne School). I had a bad date in Sidcup I never knew what it was famous for! I used to go to Bexley Coin Club; Bexley birthplace of Mick Jagger. FYI David Bowie was born in Beckenham. Anyone know what Orpington is famous for other than the Buff Orpington breed of hen? Small world, Michael.

Hi There, I was wondering if anyone could post pictures of the 1849 large and small date halfcrowns side by side? Coincraft shows a small date and claims that they are all blundered date numerals per the picture but I don't think that is the final word. Ebay has an NGC AU 50 claiming to be a small date and it's not blundered and actually looks like a lrge date to my non expert eye. http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1849-GREAT-BRITAI...Q2em118Q2el1247 http://cgi.ebay.com/1849-Victoria-Half-Cro...1QQcmdZViewItem Sorry these aren't live links, I need to learn how to do that on this site. Also, which of the 1839-1850 series has small and which has large dates;anybody know? And, Can anyone post pictures of 1848 halfcrowns with the "irregular obverse letter spacing" of the straight 8 as well as pic's of 8/6 and 8/7? I would appreciate it, Thanks, freewheels.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1849-GREAT-BRITAI...Q2em118Q2el1247 http://cgi.ebay.com/1849-Victoria-Half-Cro...1QQcmdZViewItem Sorry these aren't live links, I need to learn how to do that on this site. Whoops they are live now, I'll remember that!

I have registered, What a great business concept! Good luck: I shall check frequently. freewheels

Hi, I was hoping to start an exchange about some rare British coins. I have never seen a 1726 1/2 crown or a 1798 Shilling offered for sale, does anyone in the forum own either of these? How rare do you think they are comparted to a 1667/4 1/2 crown, a 1697 Crown or a 1703 plain 1/2 crown all of which I have seen offered for sale? For that matter how would they compare to an 1841 1/2 crown. Also why are George 1st crowns seemingly more available than his 1/2 crowns? I am hoping to start a debate about these rarities and any others that forum members might care to mention. in the interests of full disclosureI must admit that I am only a "tirekicker" when it comes to rare expensive coins although I am looking for a mid grade George 1 halfcrown. I'm looking forward to some interesting replies, freewheels

Forget the ESC rarity numbers as most are wildly out. There are several examples of R7 where there are approaching a dozen known, conversely I can think of an R3 where I am unable to locate a single recorded example. Similarly with another rated R. I suggest you take the rarity with a pinch of salt. Any chance you could give some examples? Thanks.

When one drops on the rarity scale a few notches say in the Scarce to R2 is there any info out there on assessing comparisons on issues that are all priced the same in Spink? Examples that interest me are George 1 and 2 halfcrowns and shillings. An example of what I mean is the 1734-6 halfcrowns. !734 seems to turn up more often than either 5 or 6 but in 2008 Spink they are all priced similarly. Similarly 1743 half crown vis a vis Limas and 1739. If a coin is considered Scarce, how many extant examples are there? And same for R and R2? An alternative to Spink for 17th and 18th century that is current?

I have the 1667/4s listed as Adams (1) which was in the sale, ex Lingford, Pearce and Hunt (fair to fine). Adams (2) sold at Spink the previous March which was ex Bonhams 5/6/1997 lot 77 (overgraded in that sale as fine) and the 3rd was in the Circular Sept.93 no.6197 (poor) at £850 where stated to be the second known at the time (presumably yours). Clearly this would make the Bonhams example the 3rd known as people were already aware of the Lingford and Pearce collections. Any details for the fourth would be welcome. Off the top of my head, Harry Manville had a 1669 1/- which was lot 628 in his sale, Spink 140 16/11/1999. Infuriatingly, the info on the 1666's isn't immediately to hand. Must tidy up!! How do these compare to 1937 Edward 8th brass 3ds in price and (lack of) availability?

This hypothesis applies primarily to lower denomination coins perhaps (although maybe the 1926 ME penny was an undetected scarcity when issued)? Presumably there aren't unknown/undiscovered hordes of high grade 1/2 crowns from the rare dates of the 1840's or 1903, 04, 05 or 08, for this reason? Did this apply at all to 17th and 18th century issues? Maybe SSC and Lima issues? I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but why doesn't Chris Perkins work on a publication of 17th and 18th Century issues to complement his other fine work?

Hi I'm a newbie actually an expat living in California who took his british coin collection (and hobby) with him. Question is, where can I find the most comprehensive list of confirmed british coin varieties from the period 1662 to 1967 on this web site or on another site?

I don't think there is one. Collectors who specialise in varieties tend to generate their own lists because there is no comprehensive varieties reference. At the end of the day all references are going to be incomplete due to ongoing discoveries & taken to its logical conclusion a varieties site would have to list every die combination of every coin type known because some references are sufficiently detailed. The time/cost of doing this would make it a labour of love because no one would pay for the service. Couple this with the fact that most people can only afford to collect a couple of denominations in great detail because acquisition costs are prohibitive, so most will buy books relevant to their chosen types and hence it is easy to see why it is not available. Wow what a flood of responses! In light of Rob's comments I'd like to ask a few questions of the forum about a few varieties that I have in my collection. !739 small garter star shilling: does that always have irregular obverse lettering w/ A of Gratia spilling onto the King's lapel? Also on my example no stop and closer spacing between DEI and GRATIA, is this usual? 1663 Crown w/ extra hair curl, is this common? 1846 1/2 crown 8 struck over 6, is this common. I am of the opinion that the modern varieties I own are are of little value, i.e. 1945 double struck 9 penny(VF), 1946 one dot penny (GVF), 1957 calm sea red and brown unc with pointed 7 to tooth. Anyway hope these questions provoke some discussion on the forum.