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JJs

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  1. I'm holding out for a hoard of maybe 50-60 1933 pennies found under the cabbage patch. Imagine the once-in-a-lifetime thrill and uniqeness of acquiring a large hoard of coins far in excess of the number actually minted.


  2. Some background to the Eric Saga.

    The 4th pic down in the Ebay listing is a St Peter/Sihtric penny which the seller found before his Eric. This was submitted to EMC (2018.0435) and PAS (DENO-FCA770) and eventually sold by CNG (https://auctions.cngcoins.com/lots/view/4-QVUN2/anglo-saxon-anglo-viking-hiberno-norse-northumbria-st-peter-coinage-circa-921-927-ar-penny-20mm-123-g-3h-swordcross-type-bmc-1-york-mint-struck-under-sihtric-ii-caech)

    Also I uploaded a video superimposing/animating his Eric over the PAS one (YORYM-BA2295), at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1QpPVzrKM

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  3. 1 hour ago, jelida said:

    The PAS will not value a find, though ‘Treasure’ items are valued by the ‘Treasure Valuation Committee’ as part of the Treasure process, if found to be Treasure and a museum wishes to acquire. As a single find it would not qualify. But this coin does not appear to have been reported to the PAS, and I suspect that the landowner is unaware of its existence, if genuine. To my mind it is not an obvious fake, as most are, and indeed may be a die duplicate of the PAS one .

    Jerry

    I've done an image comparison on computer, taking perspective distortions etc into account (I'm used to doing this when comparing Iceni coins with published dies), and details on this coin and the PAS one appear virtually identical right down to die flaws. I did contact the seller yesterday telling him this - he explained why he doesn't want to send it to PAS or EMC

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  4. On 11/4/2021 at 10:29 AM, 1949threepence said:

    With regard to the "1933 pennies" and other manifestly obvious rubbish, should we protect people from their own stupidity, or do we carry on along the lines of caveat emptor? 

    Very tough question. At the moment the only way of doing the former seems to be to add the sellers' names to a maintained list of cheats like http://augustuscoins.com/ed/fakesellers.html

    and http://www.lateromanbronzecoinforum.com/index.php?topic=1218.0

     

    I suspect MB may be part of a group with a bunch of Ebay names and possibly different house addresses who shill bid each other up as required.

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  5. 17 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

    Apparently someone here messaged her in her dimondgirl guise and addressed her as 'marleybob' - he says she never replied which doesn't surprise me in the least!

    Very impolite. I hope any future contact from this forum begins Dear Bob ...

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  6. 9 hours ago, secret santa said:

    Yes, they are very good likenesses but fortunately they have different numbers of border teeth.

    True 1933 - obverse 162 teeth, reverse 184 teeth

    Fake 1933 - obverse 160 teeth, reverse 159 teeth ( I did a quick count and must check these)

    My copy from bitsandbobs.etc has 161 both sides. Maybe it's an extremely rare fake worth hundreds of thousands (to marlybob1/dimondgirl) 😉

    It's advertised as same dimensions and weight as the original, but is noticeably thinner than a 1935 penny.


  7. 2 hours ago, Sword said:

    This is one of the reproduction 1933 pennies sold by Dirkin49 for £3.59. Good price for a repro. gap filler. Note the wrong serifs on letters and the "additional" wave under Britannia's toes. 

     

    Those angled serifs must be really tricky for forgers! If the pics I've seen are the real thing it's  just the pattern penny missing the extra wave, the "ordinary" 1933 has it.

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  8. 39 minutes ago, Michael-Roo said:

    Eight grand and 62 bids now but accounted for by two bidders only.

    What's the betting it's a wind up merchant (hurrah!) and a repeated shill response?

     

    Maybe the public bidder is "her" as well - after all we know "she" has at least two ebay names.

     

    I'm no expert but out of interest I compared her penny with the real thing https://www.antiquestradegazette.com/news/2016/1933-and-all-that-165-000-for-britain-s-numismatic-superstar/

    and there are many detail differences. I've attached pics of some text from each - see how the serifs are much straighter/cruder in her version (fake over real).

    Garage find 1933 penny.png

    Real 1933 penny .png

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  9. On 3/15/2021 at 10:33 PM, jelida said:

    has now been relisted https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254912685349?ViewItem=&item=254912685349

    still ignoring our requests for the names of his team of experts, and a pic of the coin edge, but still offering: "feel free toemail me with any questions". Maybe not using toemail was our mistake?

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  10. 1 hour ago, hibernianscribe said:

     However, I agree it looks 'dodgy' and could be a casting which because thicker would add weight to equate with a thinner gold coin. 

     

    Assuming fairly pure gold, from the diameter and weight shown the thickness should be just under 0.5mm. Nearer 1mm if lead. I've asked him to post some edge-on photos.

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