1969 coin prices

[1969 coin prices]

13 hours ago, Iannich48 said:

I guess that there are a few members on here that did buy coins in 1969. I was born in 1969, so that is a few years before i bought any.

I bought a 1919KN from a schoolmate. My first dealer purchase was a silver 3d (GV) dated perhaps 1933? which was at least EF and cost me around 6d of my 1968 pocket money!

[1969 coin prices]

A year later, the 1970 Coins and Medals Annual (later to morph into the Coins Market Values annual) listed some interesting prices, including the following two:

• 1932 penny BU ..................... £50 (probably around £500 at today's RPI?)
• 1797 twopence BU .............. £35

The 1932 penny has probably doubled in price, i.e. a long way behind inflation, whereas a genuine BU 1797 would probably fetch £1000 in that grade.

[proposed heating payments this winter]

23 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Supposing the price doesn't come down, what then? Hard luck folks, suck it up?    

Precisely NO-ONE has said that. Everyone apart from Truss has talked about regularly reviewing the situation.

[proposed heating payments this winter]

6 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

3/ Why is it unrealistic? Absolutely no-one in politics or the media (that I recall) said it was unrealistic at the time it was announced, NOBODY bar none - so why is it suddenly and miraculously unrealistic now? Expensive yes, but unrealistic no. In fact it's a disgrace to just scrap a public commitment on an extremely serious issue, simply because you have a different philosophy.

It's nothing to do with philosophy - if in the event fuel costs go back to what they were within a year, then the 2 year promise is indeed unrealistic. Ok, it might not - probably won't - happen but a review every 6 months would certainly keep an eye on what's needed.

[Halfpenny ID check]

That's fascinating - I have a farthing of the same date with exactly the same effect (even more dramatic?):

[proposed heating payments this winter]

2 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

We already know that it's not an absolute cap in terms of individual usage, which may be more or less. But it is the accepted phrase used to describe the overall cost to consumers, unless you can think of a better one.

Well, only "The £2,500 figure is the new cost to consumers currently paying £1,200. (Some pay more, others less, depending on actual usage)."

The energy price cap, which I believe is set by Ofgem, limits the maximum amount energy suppliers can charge you for each unit of energy used.

As for April 2023, the two year promise helped worried households to feel a bit more secure

They'd have felt no less secure if the government had said "It's help for 6 months, and then we'll review it every 6 months for up to 2 years to see how the situation changes."

, and could have been modified to take account of overall energy price changes along the way. Now they've had the rug pulled from under their feet again.

Only because the government made a fatuous unrealistic promise (probably for purely political reasons).

Wit regard to helping the most vulnerable, I can forecast quite accurately now, that will be an administrative nightmare as there will be millions right on whatever borderline is set, who will be disputing the decision in their case. 

Sadly you're right, I think.

 

[proposed heating payments this winter]

On 10/17/2022 at 3:58 PM, 1949threepence said:

We'll hear what Hunt has to say soon, but the one decent thing that was announced before Kwarteng's mini budget, namely a 2 year energy price cap set at £2,500, now only lasts for 6 months, until April 2023, with (as yet undefined) help for the vulnerable.

Absolutely bloody spiffing.   

Bl00dy reporters have a lot to answer for. That widely quoted £2,500 figure isn't the price cap, which is actually applied to the price per unit. The figure is just an average - some people will use more and have higher bills, others less.

As for April 2023 - it makes sense to review the whole situation then, as the cost of fuel may have sharply decreased by then. A two-year promise of help was always barmy.

[1863 F47 - die No 4 under date. Did anybody here win this?]

On 10/17/2022 at 2:41 PM, Iannich48 said:

£1100, more than I would have thought.

I think you've put a comma in there by mistake...

[Coin aquisition of the week.......]

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You mean the subject of that open letter?

[What auction houses and reputable shops should I be keeping my eye on?]

22 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Is it a couple of hours, Chris? 

As you say it is a short window, but actually much longer than some forums. 

I'm not sure? I believe it was once as short as 20 minutes but longer now.

[1953 Farthing]

9 hours ago, Master Jmd said:

Interesting. From my notes I now have the following variants for the 1953 farthings:

• 1 + A
• 1 + A VIP proof

What distinguishes your VIP proof from the regular proof?

[Stuff to Make Us Laugh]

12 hours ago, blakeyboy said:

All those is 'whatever'  fake / not fake arguments bore me stupid now.

However, if I wanted to control my population would get rid of cash.

Explain - what you say isn't clear...

[Charles III portrait]

4 hours ago, secret santa said:

Not the recessed ear variety, then ?

Absolutely not - remember when he was young he could understudy Dumbo?!

[What auction houses and reputable shops should I be keeping my eye on?]

3 hours ago, Master Jmd said:

Thanks for all the responses so far. I've not had much of a chance to look through all of them yet but I must say the back catalogue on Noonans is spectacular.

I was hoping I'd be able to update the list in my first post but it seems I'm unable to do that.

you get a short window to edit, but then it closes

[1953 Farthing]

In terms of farthings? Probably not, but I'm not an expert

[Charles III portrait]

1 hour ago, Sword said:

Does anyone else think it is a shame that Charles III is used in the inscription instead of Carolus III?  Now the inscription is a mixture of English and Latin. Elizabeth doesn't translate to Latin and so there wasn't a choice with the late queen. 

She should have been Bessa

[Ukraine has such panache!!]

1 hour ago, 1949threepence said:

Of course, the above probably won't happen, and it is difficult to know exactly how the war will go from now on. But it will by now be blindingly obvious to the Russian people that it's not going well for them, and the poorly trained conscripts really are cannon fodder.  

As far as the bridge, another possibility is action by clandestine anti Putin Russian groups. For Putin to blame Ukraine directly, makes his security look weaker than ever.   

Is it? Up to now they've been happy to believe Russian state media UNLESS it comes down to conscription - in which case they suddenly put their money where their feet are (going).

[What auction houses and reputable shops should I be keeping my eye on?]

for auctions - DNW also (recent name change to Noonans); I found Warwick&Warwick good but that was up to 20 years ago. I think they may have declined?

as for dealers, I know some people have had issues with the 3rd on your list. You can definitely add Dave Craddock, and our own @Rob (Rob Pearce) to your list.

[Ukraine has such panache!!]

11 hours ago, Rob said:

He hasn't stopped since the 24th Feb.

Maybe the bridge strike was a reprisal for the 11 killed in the missile strikes on Zaporizhzhia the day before............or maybe today was just another day demonstrating Russian SOP.

Putin has hardly bothered with Kyiv since his 30 km column was halted in its tracks and severely damaged back in the early days. His main objective was the eastern strip which he still largely holds, i.e. the land bridge connecting Russia to the Crimea. I think (just a hunch, but one put forward by Western observers) that his initial push towards Kyiv was either "I'll have a go at that and see if I can get it" or "Kyiv will prove an irresistible bargaining tool if things don't go my way in the east".

I don't think they yet know what caused the bridge incident? It's a possible theory that it was an accident made worse by the adjacent train's explosive load. Ukraine denied responsibility which is very unusual. Certainly the missile strikes on Kyiv after the bridge event is Putin blaming Ukraine and venting his anger - I doubt there is any other reason for them.

[Ukraine has such panache!!]

Sadly, Putin is now bombing Kyiv as reprisal.

[Looking for a 1953 2+A farthing (not the proof version)]

I have the proof - Colin Cooke thought it the rare version? That said I've never seen the currency one.

 

[Let's See Your Toned English Milled Silver!]

6 hours ago, Rob said:

Is the toning greenish? Someone bought me a box of mainly G5 silver that was was packed in lamb's wool and hadn't been looked at for many years. The result was a beautifully toned selection of coins, all of which had a green tone - presumably from the oils in the wool. Green is not a particularly common colour IMO, so wonder if the same applies.

Sheep, in Australia? Surely not...

[Thanks NHS]

12 hours ago, VickySilver said:

And yet VASTLY better than the horrific health care system we have in the US. I give them much Credit as Peck says.

The problem is that many Tories want us to be much more like the US when it comes to healthcare.