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11 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:I think if he'd just said that he felt the government lacked compassion on the issue, he'd probably have got away with it, and nothing else would have been said. But the left now have this absurd habit of conflating things the government propose regarding immigration, with nazi Germany. Any - even lightweight - student of history knows there is no comparison, and that to do so is an intensely insulting trivialisation of the events back then, to those affected and their successors.
Fair point, but for Gary to even suggest the government "lack compassion" is a strange take when most if not all dinghy travellers are manifestly not refugees, they aren't fleeing war-torn countries, they're paying their way across Europe, then when in a safe country (France) await unauthorised travel across the channel.
The obvious point to me is that it is nothing to do with Gary or anyone else's "compassion" - the concept has been shoehorned into a political attack on the Tories. But the Tories have been stupid. There was never a problem deporting illegal immigrants before - every government has done it without anyone blinking an eyelid, including Blair and Brown of course. For some reason the Tories have allowed this to get out of control while promoting pantomime policies like Rwanda that would never work on any large scale, even if they could undertake it.
The only takeaway from this mess that I can come up with, is that the government actually have no problem with mass illegal economic migration. But just talk tough and pretend they do. The globalists want open borders, the globalists lend us finance, so this happens - at least that hypothesis makes sense, nothing else does.
When there are genuine refugees like Ukrainian women and children, you don't see them hitching a lift across the Channel! There are international frameworks to provide for them.
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32 minutes ago, Coinery said:I think most people naturally assume it to be a personal opinion when shared across one’s own personal social media account? I personally, never for a second, believed Gary’s Twitter feed represented the views of the BBC!
And re the final point in your sentence, isn’t this what our political leaders do all the time?
Sadly, I think his twitter feed does represent the vast majority of the BBC. As can be seen in the mass walkouts and subsequent climbdown by the DG. Polls show 75% of people disagree with Lineker's take on this - which shows that the BBC are not representative of the majority of the paying public.
I'm surprised 25% have been so propagandised that they agree with him - open borders are completely unsustainable of course.
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Which countries rid themselves of blacks throughout history? I know.
It's lucky a certain person can't read this (or so he says) because he would be unable to give me a factual answer, because that would disagree with his dogma..
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I hope people aren't being unfair to Gary. Full credit to him, Alan and Ian for fearlessly calling out Qatar, boycotting the World Cup and making very telling comparisons between Qatar's treatment of immigrant workers and illegal immigrants, and Britain's treatment of the same under the Tories.
And good luck to Gary in his tax-dodging wheeze with HMRC - losing out on all that money from Qatar must have been a huge financial hit to him, and he must be upset that the tax he's going to save isn't going to be available for the NHS or some other worthy public cause. Still, it'll be going to a much better cause - himself. Great bloke!
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10 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:Sorry, but that's totally wrong. 1) he's sport, for which there are much more relaxed rules about impartiality, and 2) he can say what he likes on Twitter, where he's not representing the BBC. Would I say the same if I didn't 100% agree with him? Don't know...
You're absolutely right as you would say that because Linecar's saying an opinion you agree with, and he's using the Left's favourite tactic of comparing anyone who has a different and more sensible view to theirs as a "Nazi". You're right in your comfort zone there.
So how many millions or even billions of people from poorer parts of the world should we let in? Is there a limit, if so where would you put it? Very few if any of these people currently crossing the Channel is a genuine asylum seeker as far as I can see - they have all travelled through several safe countries to get to Northern France from which they can then get escorted over the English Channel to a life of relative luxury in Britain. And they're nearly all men, but wouldn't genuine asylum seekers from war-ravaged places be to a large extent women and children? They're the more vulnerable ones.
And most of them are Albanians and Indians. What a joke. Apparently in many cases the taxpayer-funded human rights lawyers tell them to play the homosexual card, and as a result, 55% of Albanians (Muslim country) are currently granted asylum here compared to 2% in France. Our system is infiltrated and broken and the government aren't interested in fixing it.
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On 2/19/2023 at 6:38 PM, TomGoodheart said:Paul Dawson's writing on the ticket, so pre 1997, when he took over his father's business.
Not sure if he worked for Spink after 1985 which is when he joined his Dad. Still quite a wide date range I'm afraid ..He joined Spink for several years in the mid-2000's until his tragic car accident, which killed his girlfriend and must have led to his early death. The SNC didn't last much longer after that.
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2 hours ago, mrbadexample said:"Nos. 3 and 3a. are rare; No. 3b. very rare."
Thanks - he puts them on the same level, though the overdate must be rarer to a certain degree.
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56 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:Yes.
Page 46: "FARTHING 1717, 3a. CORRECTED ERROR. R - An N has been lightly cut where the first A is and shows plainly below the correct letter."
Described as rare.
Thanks! Did he also say it was of similar rarity to the standard? I haven't got Bramah to hand at the moment and maybe my mind's playing tricks on me.
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13 hours ago, 1949threepence said:Interesting to note that a number of the sub varieties identified by Bramah as rare, were never mentioned by Peck. For example the 2a, 2c, 3b, 4a, distinctions between 10b & 10c, 23a, 25c & 26a.
Bramah's book was only ever (as far as I can see) subject to one printing. Consequently, after nearly a century (copyright 1929), remaining often tatty copies are now, understandably, very scarce and very costly. Hence many collectors and dealers are unaware of these rare varieties. Some are especially rare in the higher grades, but seldome attrbuted. Cope and Rayner looked at grade rarity comparisons in their 1975 book, but apart from the 1854/3 - which also, incidentally, is extremely rare in EF and above, according to them - no mention is made of the other Bramah sub varieties referred to above.
The 2a seems to be more widely known about than the rest for whatever reason. Bramah type 17a (the 1854 no colons) was taken forward by Peck, but again, only seldom attributed.
Do we need a new book to raise awareness? - naturally this time with high end photography, including close ups, available
I don't think Peck really gave Bramah his due - perhaps subconscious rivalry?
In the Spink Numismatic Circular of 1968 is a letter from a reader announcing a new discovery - A over N in the 1717 dump farthing. He also had a letter from Peck verifying this.
But when you go to Bramah you'll see it's one of his main 1717 varieties, with the comment that it is of similar rarity to the standard non-overstrike.
Peck died the same year (1968) so his faculties might have be lower than normal, but it seems that he wasn't or had never been aware of a major farthing variety in the only other 20th century book on copper coins.
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15 hours ago, Bernie said:The 1933 penny for auction is definitely a proof. It was contained in a proof set. I owned a 1933 currency penny for about ten years, to me it was just a date that completed my collection of currency pennies. I never cherished this coin, it was only a George 5th penny with a different date numeral. I absolutely worship my 1860 pattern pennies and can't imagine parting with them.
The last 1860 pattern pennies I recall were in Spink auction Dec 2015, both bronzed beauties, one the Roman date in a curve. Fantastic coins.
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29 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:Keep it as part of the the rest of your collection at home. There are numerous unique and virtually uncrackable hiding places for items as small as a coin, which something so iconic as a 1933 penny, could be secreted in. But nevertheless still readily accessible for the owner who has sole knowledge of its secure location.
It's not like the security options available for a rare painting.
It's the forgetting where you hid it that's the problem......
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1 hour ago, HistoricCoinage said:I've come across this remarkable dish that looks like it has what would've been an impressive coun collection embedded in it (sadly polished smoothly...).
Does anyone know how they were set in it and whether the coins could ever be removed?
Thanks!
Wasn't something similar sold at auction (St James?) several years ago now?
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3 hours ago, 1949threepence said:Yes, from memory I think she may have raised concerns about look of her eyes and nose. I don't imagine she'd have been especially bothered about the reverse side, and once she'd said she was happy with the design, that would have been taken as satisfied with the entire obverse and reverse - which would then have gone ahead based on that.
Obviously Britannia was pretty much the same appearance as on the pre 1860 coinage.
I have to say the Wiener bust in not pretty, she looks a bit hard. I can't blame Victoria for rejecting it. The reverse would have been incidental as you say.
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10 hours ago, 1949threepence said:Simply an observation based on your comments. Hopefully it will be of interest to others on a general level.
I don't know how many times he returned to the Queen, or even if he did, but judging by the number of different patterns in 1860, I'd imagine Her Majesty did raise some questions.
She dismissed the Wiener shilling bust(s) straightaway.
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On 11/14/2022 at 11:16 PM, Iannich48 said:Of course, i should have mentioned the other engravers etc, not all down to Mr Wyon.
I don't know of any other bun head penny engravers, considering LCW is signed on both sides at some stage or another. The only other one that I know of was Minton for the rare coronet patterns.
The legend and date varieties will have been down to the die sinkers.
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5 hours ago, blakeyboy said:Yep- silly old buffer was a bit derailed- he didn't have a loco motive- he wanted us to believe him, but he lacked a suitable platform.
I haven't expressed myself well - maybe I need a coach.
Sorry for blowing off steam- hope you didn't lose track of what I was trying to say.
Don't shunt me out of the way- I like to feel people are siding with me....
I can only apologise....
You just rail away.
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On 11/15/2022 at 7:23 PM, secret santa said:The LCA specimen next month should be much cheaper.
Talking of which, I wouldn't bid on their draped bust James II farthing, especially as its tie ribbons are long and hanging down, and you can see the other side of the cuirass. But apart from that....
Neither would I be tempted by their James II 1687/6 shilling though it's got good detail - it's the one from Sept 2013 DNW sale now brightly cleaned. I should know - I bought it back then, sold it a few years ago. As often happens nowadays, some people take a very reasonable appearance coin (dusky grey here) and turn it into something that might just have fallen out of a Christmas cracker.
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47 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:They look as though enveloped by fog !
Probably the main constant with all of them is the complete absence of hair detail on the King's head.
Yes, it's funny the best 1918H pennies are also the worst!
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18 hours ago, 1949threepence said:Indeed, some of the BU or NBU specimens look dreadful. Although that Noonans lot No 308 on your link, actually isn't too bad.
I get what you're saying and as a theory it's as plausible as any. But logically you would think that a few UNC examples with good detail would also have survived. You're right though, we don't seem to see too many. Personally I've made it part of my primary motivation with George V pennies, to obtain those with as good detail as possible.
The 1918KN's are generally a lot better than the H's.
It might be that these understrikes survive in relatively pristine condition as they were never issued for circulation. Alternatively someone got hold of a mint roll of these identically badly struck examples from the bank. Either way they all look closely related in terms of striking conditions as they are all similarly under-struck, with the same amount of trident, knee missing, weak bust etc so likely from the same batch.
This suggests the striking pressure was under-par to exactly the same extent for a sequence of strikes, and must have been set wrongly, either as an economising experiment or just a simple mistake.
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2 hours ago, 1949threepence said:Even though fully lustred, there's personally no way I'd ever buy such a coin as so much detail is missing. Although I guess we're all different and some collectors prefer the full lustre to the detail. These are my 1918Hs, with much better detail:-
Interesting. I've just looked at the DNW archive and strangely all the BU or NBU ones (of which there are several) are weakly struck missing part of the shaft etc whereas the less lustrous or non lustrous ones are all much better struck. Which is the wrong way round! The best one of the properly struck ones does have a bit of lustre, but the rest are brown.:
I wonder if a batch of weakly struck examples failed Heaton's QC and were put away and forgotten about. And here they all are!
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On 10/27/2022 at 11:24 PM, PWA 1967 said:Not purchased this week but received back from NGC today.
Really happy with the grade as although its a weak strike as quite a few are they are scarce BU and Graded RED.
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You can tell it's an H as well by the terrible strike. Half the trident has gone awol probably due to the severe ghosting. I've got one similar, but your colour is unbeatable!
I find the 18/19 H's have paler lustre than the KN's which are deeper orange when still lustred, from the few I've seen.
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19 hours ago, secret santa said:I vaguely remember plastic facsimile coins when I was young. Forget how realistic they were and they went in the plastic cash till our grandparents had. Ting! Draw shoots open!
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On 10/22/2022 at 2:08 AM, Bruce said:Go through the catalogue yesterday, but a bit fuzzy about grading of some bun head pennies...they said UNC, but i think it is not only 1 grade below it🙄
I note they've got a lower grade SD Large Rose estimate £4-500. Dave Craddock had one he called GF/NVF for £70, but I only saw his list yesterday and it had gone of course. Sounds comparable.
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He's not saying conflation is wrong, he's saying this example of conflation is wrong.
An easy to spot difference I would have thought.