oldcopper

Well, they quoted the excellence of their website and its exhaustive arichies as a reason for increasing their premium last time, so by that logic looks like they'll have to reduce it now. It never works like that does it.....

I think the key desirability factor in the Medusa if it you can see her face, and this SARC specimen isn't too bad an example of that.

Yes, it's the act of assuming that "full original colour" means just that.

I wonder if everyone has found this, but when I type "Noonans" or "Noonan's" into Google all the results are for the (previously unknown to me) genetic disorder Noonan Syndrome. So I wonder how they are going to differentiate their website location from that? I don't think they've thought this through. They'll hardly want to, or even be able to, displace important medical information off the top of the search results.

Yes, of course, they are bronzed, mainly currency pieces. The reason he didn't list them is they're unofficial as well.

Perhaps he phrased it ambiguously but if he did think they were official surely he would have given them a Peck number.

OK not that one! Its PT twin, so these later bronzed coins are out there.

That might be the coin originally sold by Baldwins as a bronzed proof (sale no.52) where Roland Harris bought it for ~£600. I saw it then and it was obviously a currency piece, so why Baldwins said it was "undoubtedly a proof" I don't know. People presumably sussed this as it only made £190 at the Harris sale (LC 2009), with LC's description somewhat ambivalent about the proof designation.

There was an unofficially gilded 1841 in the Colin Adams sale of 2003. Peck is saying that these post Soho examples are all unofficially gilded so he isn't contradicting himself.

Paper supplies must have run short!

If you phone them up you can say "Hi Noonans".

My first list from FS was just after John Minshull had got this fancy new typewriter with all the new fonts. Pre-computer it was cutting edge. It was a bound A4 light blue catalogue. The ones after that were just stapled I think and were always different colours, light green, orange etc. Always an exciting moment when his latest one popped through the door! They were all chucked out after I went to University but the dates were ~1977-1983. I wish I 'd kept some for memory's sake. He really went to town on the rarities, I remember a 1685 Charles II tin farthing got about a page of write-up.

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Here's mine, bought DNW auction Sept 2008 - quite a steep price (£260 hammer), and good lustre on the obverse, but a dark reverse. https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?lot_uid=158753 DNW's photography is somewhat flattering to the reverse!

As one dealer told me, this micro-incremental grading scale is just a way of making more money out of collectors. This here being a prime example.

Just spotted this at Atlas: anyone recognise it? (trick question, I do): a snip at $14,500 for the discerning collector PR65BN.

I think the truth has definitely changed with this one in the last 4 months.

Yes, shame the blue toner has added >$10K to the price!

Put us all out of our misery:

And could be the ANNA SLABBA INCOMPETENS legend variety.

Hope it's not one of those fake Godless that were doing the rounds not so long ago in "NEF" condition. The colour does seem suspiciously uniform!

Looked at Peck earlier and the of two obverses it could be, KH22 and KH23, Peck says the only difference is a flaw on the first G of GEORGIUS in KH23 - I can't seen it at all in Peck's plaster cast photograph of KH23! Perhaps other people can spot it. However, your photographs give better resolution I suspect, and I can't see any flaw on these either.

I've just checked and P.1242 is KH21 and has 3 dots instead of a K on the truncation. https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?lot_uid=404661

I haven't got Peck to hand but from memory isn't P.1242 the copper proof with a sequence of dots instead of or next to the K? It's not the 1233-1235 series as it lacks the die flaw on the drapery (I can't see it), so is it the bronzed analogue (P.1244?) of the gilt P.1243. I take it it's got an engrailed edge. There may be other choices though but P.1244 is the common alternative to P.1234 I guess. From memory again I say quickly!

Thanks Rob - very interesting. Fascinating about the removal of the graffiti and possible plugging.