oldcopper

The Ingrams may have many nice coins but to describe the following 1806 gilt penny as "AFDC, die flaw Obv sl marks" £275, is incredible. And that's putting it politely. I think this coin was sold by Spink for not much in the early 2000's as "with a severe gouge and associated scratching" or words to that effect. Which it obviously has. The bottom line is not reassuring words (which may be wonderfully written but cost nothing) but a good recommendation from established or experienced collectors for instance on this forum. Can any experienced forum person give such a recommendation?

In terms of £/surface area, this must be the most expensive milled British non-gold coin.

You should have said! - I've just put one into DNW - it's ex-Spink auction Sept 2016 and is a nice looking coin, though it has two scratches on the Queen's neck. I don't know whether it's got the divot or not, don't know whether it's observable on the photo. https://www.spink.com/lot/16006002396 Edit - I can't see it on the photo.

Flattened in some sort of mechanical press maybe? Spink sold an ex-Peck GII old-head "penny" once, ie a halfpenny which they said had been squeezed in a press. I couldn't see any distortion of the design in the photo. The seller gives no weight for the coin - conveniently missing from the description. If it was on a very heavy flan, now that would be more interesting.

Yes, that's the one. Sorry I've been off the computer until now.

Good one on the F76, grab these best known examples of rarities if money allows, otherwise you may regret it ever after. I still occasionally rue the day my computer cocked up as I was about to bid for I think the finest F7 with virtually full orange glow (not streaky as often seen) at the Spink Dec 2015 sale. At the time I thought I'd never see another one like that and of course I haven't since. It went for £1100 hammer which was written up in Coin News as a high price, but I think it was a snip for whoever got it.

They're finally going now - nearly an hour down "due to streaming problems". I notice the 1847 penny of Hyram's lots went somewhat above estimate. Well I never.....

It's in Freeman's book as well, but the photo is not good, you can hardly see the ship.

Thanks, that's the one I was thinking of - great design!

Sorry! it's not a dreadnought, it's got sails of course. I should have reminded myself. I think the dreadnought's on a later pattern penny.

I recall one went for ~$15,000 at a Stacks and Bowers auction several years ago, about 2014. I wished I'd bid on the London Coins one from a few years before that which went for ~£1600 hammer. From memory. Were they making Dreadnoughts then? I think I read that's what the ship is somewhere. Maybe the same coin that MR sold in his list above.

And it's the rarer open 3 variety!

It's not a Seaby/Laurence scenario then....(a 1933 penny hiding in a lot of bric-a-brac).

I'd have thought so - these coins were struck for collectors in relatively small mintages, so a higher standard of strike would be expected.

No.