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  1. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    I agree that they appear to be in different locations but I think that that is due to camera angle. Using the same logic, from the photos, it could be argued that the angle of the E to a radial line, on both coins is different. And yet we know that they are the same.
  2. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    It is this treatment exactly that I believe is the origin of many of the dot varieties. The visible evidence of die crack remedy. Plausible?
  3. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    Would you be able to re photograph please Bob? I appreciate that you said that it's a difficult operation but I seem to remember doubt cast in a previous thread.
  4. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    I've suggested that the crack appeared first. A hole drilled in front of the crack will delay its travel and prolong the dies life. I'm also suggesting that this is the reason for most of the dot varieties. 1897, 1909, etc. A man made hole or resultant dot, to address a die crack. Terry's double dot serif 1897 penny along a die crack could be a multiple attempt.
  5. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    Thanks for the photos Bob. You note that the apostrophe has a die crack. Would you say that the crack caused the dot or that the dot could have been drilled into the die to slow the cracks progression?
  6. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    That's the one. Thanks. What's your opinion of these dots all being man made holes to delay the travel of a die crack?
  7. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    I'm sorry. I'm that computer literate.😕 Would some other kind soul oblige please?
  8. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    Your 1897 high tide double dot serif. F148. And I've spotted that Ian (Alf) has an 1858 penny with a round dot and a die crack. I've entered 'dot penny' into the search bar and a host of coins appear, all with round dots and die cracks. So rather than the die crack forming the dot, isn't it possible that the dot was drilled in, to delay the die crack. And prolong the life of the die? Most die cracks appear around the legend, as do most dots?
  9. Dot and a die crack
  10. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    I think that, in conjunction with this thread, Terry's thread titled 1897 penny double dot serifs should be read. Two or more round dots following a die crack in the legend.
  11. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    Terrysoldpennies has an unlisted 1934 penny with a dot and a die crack. More pennies. Bottom of page 134. I must learn how to do links.
  12. A dot and a die crack
  13. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    More pennies thread. Top end of page 123.
  14. Zo Arms

    1897 dot penny. Advice needed.

    The idea came from a conversation around 40 yrs ago, with the guy that apprenticed me. How would you stop a crack from traveling in a pane of glass. Although not practical or easily achievable, a round hole in front of the crack would halt or delay it.. Do any of the other dot varieties have an adjacent die crack? The 1909 N dot, 1875 cannonball, 1946 dot dash?