blakeyboy

or indeed "this one's seen"....:)

It's PE, obviously. Otherwise you'd be 'Enckris 2'.....

Exactly Mike. It's all dependant on how many are first discovered, and what appeals at that time, or is fashionable. You can say there are 4 types of the 1908, or not bother at all and say there is just one type. If the latter, then there is no 1926ME, 1911 hollow neck, 1903 open 3 etc. The 1874 series would be half as big..... What about the 1890 dropped 90? Try finding one..... I have an 1880 with sea by the ship missing. So what. But, if it's a 1934, everyone is interested. You have to have that 'magic ammount' found- not quite enough to go round, but _just_ enough discovered for people to feel they are missing out by not having one......! ( The exception to this is when clearly there was a _set_ of dies made, but one obviously missing. An 1862 halfpenny with a 'D', or more spectacularly, an 1863 with a clear '1' below the date turns up.....see what happens....)

Yep- that makes sense. Mind you, if, as seems likely, that most 1908's in good nick have been examined, then from how many there are and how many of them are 164a, you could judge the actual 164a mintage....

Sounds about right, though it's rarity, as a percentage, is surely exactly the same as worn examples....how could it possibly be otherwise? If I'm thinking straight, if the percentage of EF+ examples in the total extant population is larger than the percentage of 164a's in the total minted population, then high grades may well be out there. If it's lower, there won't likely be any. Same as the 1903 open 3.

What unusual wear! Or as often used on Ebay, 'ware'.

Nice. As I've said before on here, the story behind a coin should be better than the coin's value...

And many are just plain 'dug up' too....

Just got it!!!

This one is actually rather refreshing..... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-ONE-PENNY-COIN-COPPER-PLATED-STEEL-ELIZABETH-II-EXTREMELY-COMMON/401845135170?hash=item5d8fd62742:g:NOsAAOSwGhBdUUan

This is all very similar to what goes on in primary cells. Or indeed when a galvanised roof has a bad scratch- once you have the two different metals exposed to rainwater, a cell is formed that is basically short-circuited, so a toroidal current path forms, the chlorides get to work, and the roof has a hole in it in a shorter time than if it hadn't been galvanised.....

I've just looked on Ebay under "two pence 1983". Nearly 100 hopeful twats pitching the usual crap. Do you have a link to the coin you mean?

£227 and counting...whaaaat? It clearly says 'Genuine' and 'fantasy' in the same line....

If you look again, the main description says "SIGHS OF OLD AGE" .....is that what I'm doing?

Thanks Terry- I never took note of that fold in the ribbon before.