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I thought this article might be of interest. They look in pretty decent condition for a hoard. I see a couple of Irish examples on the top. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-68685683

I picked this one up recently , A stunning piece as you can see 😂.I wish . But , its an F21 3+d 1861 and on Richards rare list I payed sixteen pounds for it in a terrible state . Both pictures below and after a clean up

Martin Allen has now recorded the coin and all is explained! https://emc.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/full-record/20240117?&0=10540980&1=10540981&2=10540982&3=10540983&4=10540984&5=10540985&6=10540986&7=10540987&8=10540988&9=10540989&10=10540990&11=10540991&12=10540992&13=10540993&14=10540994&15=10540995&16=10540996&17=10540997&18=10540998&19=10540999&20=10541000&21=10541001&22=10541002&23=10541003&24=10541004&25=10541005&26=10541006&27=10541007&28=10541008&29=10541009&30=10541010&31=10541011&32=10541012&33=10541013&34=10541014&35=10541015&36=10541016&37=10663673&38=10663674&39=10663675&40=10663676&41=19870154&42=19880184&43=19930227&44=19940222&45=19950173&46=19950174&47=19970154&48=20000052&49=20010662&50=20060124&51=20070062&52=20100263&53=20120085&54=20130102&55=20130350&56=20150295&57=20170052&58=20180144&59=20180289&60=20200413&61=20210408&62=20220008&63=20230112&64=20240117 Jerry

Happy to help.

I think it is a "fantasy" coin. The legends are completely different to the real thing and so the maker never intended it to be a fake. But anything can happen if someone can see "1902" when "1905" is shown.

And here's another with die clash marks like yours by the ribbon, and in front of Victoria too. They are the remnants of Britannia's drapery etc. from the clash with the reverse die.

Very common occurrence.

Just die clash marks where the dies have come together without a blank in between, resulting in transferring of some of the opposite side's design into that die and so causing permanent damage that then is transferred to any subsequent coins struck from that die. Very common, especially in the Viccy penny series.

If Michael has no copies available, I'm happy to let mine go. Purchased from Michael, as new, when first published. And unfortunately unused. ( My pockets aren't deep enough for pennies).

As an introduction, I've gathered coins over the years, as did my father. Now I'm retired, time to organise them. That's generating questions, and showing up some surprises.... I found half a sixpence - literally, just the reverse - 1960. No signs of cutting or forcing, rim is still sound, looks like a planchet delamination Farthings - I've got those organised - one binder with the "best" of each year I have, another with all the others - about 80 and 110 respectively. Most interesting to my untrained eye is an 1860 toothed/beaded border Grading is a real mystery - the book on grading above has a multi-month delivery - need to find one Cleaning - interesting discussion - I have some sticky coins (old PVC holders I presume) - de-natured alcohol has worked well (for the coins and me - mine's single malt) I have two 1953 farthing - crown cased sets - one shows tarnish on the copper, the other has a piece of "tarnish reducing paper" in it - that didn't work, they are all bad - anything to do? Thinking acetone.... On the other hand, the 1970 proofs in a rigid plastic case are gorgeous still! Any thoughts and/or advice welcome... I'm still exploring this forum - lot's of good info there. Once I see where to post, I'll get some questions and photo's up As background, I was born in England, live in Massachusetts, and I just entered my ninth decade of life - a good opportunity to get into coins! SteveW

He also was one of the Doormen at the 'Ye Pyg and Whystel', since it used to get a bit rough at chucking out time, after five flagons of mead.....

I have emailed Michael to see whether he has any copies left.

I stand corrected

Obverse 3 - 138 border teeth

The sixpence could easily be a split flan with the other half missing - as per this threepence.

Wow. 1p coins dated 1936, 1945, and 1967??

The Royal Mint Museum has confirmed that 28.30 mm is incorrect and according to "the data used in the Museum, sourced from the production records held in our archive" the diameter for all florins from 1893-1970 should be 28.50 mm.

great idea at the time has backfired, I certainly hope not!

Welcome to the forum @SteveW. It sounds as if you have an interesting collection already. I am sure we would like to see your sixpence and the 1860 farthing - both sound interesting. Cleaning is always a hot topic here. Alcohol is good for cleaning off sticky tape and seems to do no other damage. Getting rid of unsightly tarnish is much more difficult. Ammonia will do it, but leaves the coin looking pale and flat. Left too long it will result in pitting and serious damage. In the US there is a product designed for clearing Verdigris - I think called Verdicare. It is not available here in the UK I think, so I have never tried it and can't vouch for it, but it might be worth trying it out on one of your "also ran" farthings first. The penny collectors on this forum are probably the most serious and experienced in the world. The other UK coppers/bronzes are also well supported, so you should get plenty of help.

If you like something different, there's a book called "Newton and the Counterfeiter". It covers the period when Sir Isaac Newton (the scientist) was Master of the Royal Mint (1699-1727) and his dealing with William Chaloner, serial counterfeiter and con-man. It's an amazing story and well written. I have done a book review at https://coinparade.co.uk/newton-and-the-counterfeiter-book-review/