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I thought it was perhaps time we had our own RECENT ACQUISITIONS hammered coins post.

Picked this up at Heritage on Thursday.

Here's my best one probably. And the others.

Here are two I picked up at Sovereign rarities today. Two nice little Charles I pennies in surprisingly good striking nick

I've just received an email from Red Dragon Auctions (a Robert Lock) thanking me for my advice and also saying he'd been sent a link showing an identical coin on eBay and that has convinced him it is "too much of a coincidence". Therefore, "to retain Red Dragon's good name and also protect any possible purchaser" the lot will now be removed. Success! Red Dragon Auctions has now gone up in my estimation. Frank

I have already been stitched up twice for over £800 one for a fake coin that was a magnetic piece of garbage and another that claimed the lots as ex collection and a very useful lot of victorian pennies. Not 1 coin was better than fine and no varieties amongst them. LCA handled 2 of my consignments and screwed me over. Why I used them twice god only knows. then there are the auctions that will post your coin in a jiffy bag if you want to pay £50 for the privilege it's just left me with a bitter taste in my mouth when it comes to auctions. I dare say there are good guys but certainly not the majority. I just get angry when I see the likes of that 1933 penny being touted as a "could be would be, Might be" by an auctioneer that has already been flooded with posts telling them it is a fake coin and it's becoming more and more the norm than the just odd sale. Catwiki another load of crooks Then you have the stories from the members who have had their own problems with so called reputable dealers and auctions. When did it get so cutthroat? It never used to be like this. Even the bay a decade ago was full of a decent smatter of coins from all areas and some fantastic mixed lots. All those are now extinct and the place is just a training ground for crooks-r-us! I am kind of buggered as I can't get to any auctions so online is my only outlet. I need these places to be my eyes and to be honest as If I was there viewing the coins myself. If they cannot do both they have no business adding online to their sales criteria because they fail to cater properly for that side of the business.

Hi Had a second look at your phots and now concur, I had seen the centre of the rose only . Re Checking the book I am certain that the obverse is 14 mm ic DIG 8i, there are two dies with the triple stop after BETH and large rose, there are 4 other specimens recorded from die 8i, - the BM, Chris Comber, DIG collection 165 and one that was in Michael Trennary's lists G132 Aug 1987, none of these specimens being muled with 15mm ic rev, Could you send me a hi rez scan and weight to dave@grunal.com for inclusion in the upgrading of my book. I recognised the middle of your 15mm ic I bought that one from George coins 5 years ago!, Could you send me scans and weights of the other two, the last one appears to be a new die for my listings with single pellet after Regina

No they were intended 3d reverse dies, made with the large shield. I can’t post the reverses of the large flan coins now because i’m off the PC. Will put them up for you tomorrow. To be honest I think Dave had only noticed the dark shadow of the inner petals of your rose. In all fairness the outer petals are poorly struck up, damaged, and obviously very worn.

Here's a shot of my much more typical1907 reverse for comparison. Like yours, nominally a/UNC with reasonable lustre. But just look how blurry and tired the detail is, compared to yours, which is much sharper. Like comparing standard with high definition using a television analogy.

Often poor in the case of 1906 and 1907, the reverse of your 1907 looks really nice.

The long cross is Huge on Norwich. I am no good with classification of these. It's an early one with no sceptre.(class 3? ) Try looking on here for further details http://www.henry3.com

The short cross is a Henry III. Looks like one of the class 7c,s by the portrait. Moneyer probably Nichole. That's as much as i can see.

I also bought this today, I really like the castle design

My latest group of unofficial farthings bought over the last month

Here are 2 pennies I got recently. I know they are quite worn but I like the age of them and they are identifiable - I already have them but am not sure which is the John and which is the Henry (Henry III?): I think the short cross is John. Not sure about the long cross one... the Henry III one I have looks like he is holding a sceptre or something, but there is noting like that on this... any ideas appreciated thanks.

I have 3 or 4 Charles 1st pennies. None of them have as good a face as your's though - one isn't too bad but very worn still. The shield is better on 1 or 2 of mine though I think. I like them. I put the best one in my penny collection and will probably flog the others.

Here's your problem: LCGS are not satisfactory due to their conflict of interest (they will grade lower than other TPGs unless selling it themselves); NGC and PCGS might not pick up on what is a fairly obscure variety, especially as you want possible unrecorded further details attributed. You'd probably be better off submitting it to an expert in the field for comment, rather than a TPG.

Many thanks to both of you for putting in the time and effort. Dave ,if you like I can send the coin to you to have a better look. Off out now to do a spot of metal detecting,see if I can find another one😀 cheers Richard

Absolutely, and how cool to have it acknowledged as a new variety in the future editions/addendum of Dave’s book!

http://www.galata.co.uk/store.asp?storeAction=showDetail&stockID=6511 I can’t get the link to work, but you can buy the book from Galata Roll over large image for zoom The Hammered Silver Coins produced at the Tower Mint during the Reign of Elizabeth I I D Brown, Chris H Comber and Walter Wilkinson, with photographs by Paul Withers. Published by Galata Print Ltd., Llanfyllin. 2006, the latest revised edition, 2016, with corrections and additions. PB 84 pages. A4, 210 x 297mm. Detailed tables of all privy marks, legend variations and die pairings. Clever detailed line drawings of bust varieties. Photographs in b&w of all denominations. Covers the English, Irish and East India Company coins. New. This highly detailed book begins with the a history of the coinage of Queen Elizabeth I. This is followed by tables of all 11 denominations of the English coins and their various busts, initial marks and where dated, their dates. Then tables of all six of the Irish coins and their initial marks, etc. Then the 8, 4, 2 and 1 testerns of the East India Company coins. Then there are enlarged line drawings of the punches used for all of the coinages. There is a bibliography. The book ends with five appendices: List of privy marks; Indentures; Records of Pyx trials; The research collection, and Estimates of the number of coins struck. Published by Galata Print Ltd., Llanfyllin. Silver coins of Elizabeth I. English silver coins. Irish silver coins. East India Company silver coins. Catalogue number 6511 Quantity Price £30.00

Bust 3F Reverse is Large Flan BA-a with lions 20 and lis 8 obverse is 332 legend, with one complicating factor for me, that the rose looks oddly like the large rose 4 rather than the smaller rose 5 we would expect for a large flan obverse??? if we agree the rose is 5, your coin is BCW BA-1B:a But I think it’s a mule BA-3B:a

Courtesy of Richard, an 1862 Freeman 39A, 8 over 6. Very pleased.

I notice he gives 'cash on collection' option. Let's hope someone opts for this and gives him a bloody nose when they realise he's a scammer!