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1905 HALFCROWN --- is it genuine ? Some chinese tell tales ?

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:43 AM

Saw this, it was withdrawn from a Major Auction, to me it looks strange
and makes me wonder if its a Chinese Fake. The letters forming BRITT seem to
fade into the field at their bases and the colour looks abnormal and gives
a flatness that I feel is seen on the Chinese Coins

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:00 AM

Look at the attempt at pense on the reverse :D
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:24 AM

View Postnumismatist, on 04 March 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

Saw this, it was withdrawn from a Major Auction, to me it looks strange
and makes me wonder if its a Chinese Fake. The letters forming BRITT seem to
fade into the field at their bases and the colour looks abnormal and gives
a flatness that I feel is seen on the Chinese Coins

A lot may be withdrawn for any number of reasons, so it may not be because it is suspect. However, it doesn't look right and the wear doesn't seem very consistent. There are reasons why I think this one is suspect, but I'd prefer not to give the faker the opportunity to do a better job next time.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 01:09 PM

View PostPeter, on 04 March 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Look at the attempt at pense on the reverse :D


The wear to the reverse looks very flat as though it has been rubbed against a flat surface. Apparently coins are artificially worn by rubbing on a piece of leather. The colour doesn't look right either. The middle eastern fakes tend to tone to a very flat grey.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:13 PM

The shape of the King's head, not to mention ALL the lettering look terrible and poorly done. Which, pray tell, was the auction house?
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 03:52 PM

It was London Coins ,( latest sale ) and they have a few 1905 Halfcrowns
and that was the best one I think and it just looked very strange in wear
and in colour, so I kept a photo and it would be interesting to know if
they did pull it because doubts had been made about it .
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 10:06 PM

It does look very dubious. I wouldn't buy based on that photo.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:36 PM

that colour is possible, but not like that no toning on the shield, yet on some strange parts of the head, i would see legends as toning hotspots and around the portrait and in the shield, but in that grade i would just expect a dull grey
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 06:42 PM

No one with a brain would buy that....OK there are plenty of Wayne Keres out there....BTW I have worked with P Urin and got close shagging a Tara Pawling.
Just noticed on the World Champs there is a Gaylord Silly :D
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 06:54 PM

View PostPeter, on 09 March 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

No one with a brain would buy that....OK there are plenty of Wayne Keres out there....BTW I have worked with P Urin and got close shagging a Tara Pawling.
Just noticed on the World Champs there is a Gaylord Silly :D


I've met both Theresa Green & Annette Curtin

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:00 PM

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View PostPeter, on 09 March 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

No one with a brain would buy that....OK there are plenty of Wayne Keres out there....BTW I have worked with P Urin and got close shagging a Tara Pawling.
Just noticed on the World Champs there is a Gaylord Silly :D


I've met both Theresa Green & Annette Curtin

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:55 PM

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:25 PM

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Anyone see the Dutch diplomat/politician Tiny Kox on the news recently? I thought it was an error, but he's a real man!


I had a Richard Head in my class at school ...
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:00 PM

View PostPaulus, on 11 March 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

View PostChris Perkins, on 11 March 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Anyone see the Dutch diplomat/politician Tiny Kox on the news recently? I thought it was an error, but he's a real man!


I had a Richard Head in my class at school ...

Didn't we all. Oh sorry, you mean a real one.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 12:03 PM

Ivor Noble was in the year below me.
Also Hugh Janus was always mentioned in the Rugby reports for the village team :)
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 03:49 PM

View PostPeter, on 12 March 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

Ivor Noble was in the year below me.
Also Hugh Janus was always mentioned in the Rugby reports for the village team :)


My girlfriend went to school with Wayne King and Lee King (brothers with parents that had a sense of humour)
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 04:38 PM

we had a maths master at school whos surname was bates.

i had a girlfriend called theresa green.....same one?

i did get expelled from school for 2 weeks for removing the "d" and "e" from the deputy head's door.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 05:01 PM

Translate Peter Green to French. :)
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:22 PM

View PostPeter, on 02 April 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Translate Peter Green to French. :)

That one doesn't work. Pierre is masculine, so the final t isn't pronounced. Pity really. Anyway, I wasn't aware that Peter Green was so inclined. B****y good musician though.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 08:22 PM

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Translate Peter Green to French. :)



Do you know the origin of a certain pervy greeting in English? It goes back to the days of the French Navy. Before a sea battle the crews were allowed to hit the red-light district en masse. When it was time to embark they sent a messenger round all the brothels to call out (in French) : "To the water - it is the hour".
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 09:44 PM

View PostPeckris, on 02 April 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostPeter, on 02 April 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Translate Peter Green to French. :)



Do you know the origin of a certain pervy greeting in English? It goes back to the days of the French Navy. Before a sea battle the crews were allowed to hit the red-light district en masse. When it was time to embark they sent a messenger round all the brothels to call out (in French) : "To the water - it is the hour".



Not falling for that one again! :D
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 09:45 PM

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View PostPeter, on 02 April 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Translate Peter Green to French. :)



Do you know the origin of a certain pervy greeting in English? It goes back to the days of the French Navy. Before a sea battle the crews were allowed to hit the red-light district en masse. When it was time to embark they sent a messenger round all the brothels to call out (in French) : "To the water - it is the hour".



Not falling for that one again! :D
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 10:14 PM

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View PostPeter, on 02 April 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Translate Peter Green to French. :)



Do you know the origin of a certain pervy greeting in English? It goes back to the days of the French Navy. Before a sea battle the crews were allowed to hit the red-light district en masse. When it was time to embark they sent a messenger round all the brothels to call out (in French) : "To the water - it is the hour".


Dick Emery!

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:40 AM

guy with best name is nortei nortey ;)
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:46 AM

The QPR footballer called Fitz Hall is nicknamed one size :)
Also Justin Sidebottom
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 12:16 PM

weve got a guy at work whos a bit stupid and all his get up and go...got up and went
he's called earth.....because he has zero potential
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

And don't forget that well known Met copper, Inspector Robin Banks.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

View PostDaveG38, on 03 April 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

And don't forget that well known Met copper, Inspector Robin Banks.


There was also a Theresa Green at my school, also a gentelman with the surname Hunt :unsure: . I worked with a guy who I can't think of his first name with the surname Riddle, of course he was called Jimmy. I also worked with another guy who would wear the same shirt all week, he was christened Daz.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:00 PM

View PostGary D, on 03 April 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostDaveG38, on 03 April 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

And don't forget that well known Met copper, Inspector Robin Banks.


There was also a Theresa Green at my school, also a gentelman with the surname Hunt :unsure: . I worked with a guy who I can't think of his first name with the surname Riddle, of course he was called Jimmy. I also worked with another guy who would wear the same shirt all week, he was christened Daz.


I worked with a George Best who stank.Even my egg/tea stained tie was changed every day. :)
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 06:54 PM

View PostGary D, on 03 April 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostDaveG38, on 03 April 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

And don't forget that well known Met copper, Inspector Robin Banks.


There was also a Theresa Green at my school, also a gentelman with the surname Hunt :unsure: . I worked with a guy who I can't think of his first name with the surname Riddle, of course he was called Jimmy. I also worked with another guy who would wear the same shirt all week, he was christened Daz.


Christened!! That's a bit extreme!!
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