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BRITANNIA? 1821 sixpence

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 04:33 PM

What do you make of the last R in BRITANNIAR on this 1821 sixpence? It seems a right mess, but I can't make it out at all.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 04:35 PM

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 05:11 PM

View PostPeckris, on 09 January 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

What do you make of the last R in BRITANNIAR on this 1821 sixpence? It seems a right mess, but I can't make it out at all.

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It looks like a die crack (or several close together).
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:06 PM

View PostNick, on 09 January 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

View PostPeckris, on 09 January 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

What do you make of the last R in BRITANNIAR on this 1821 sixpence? It seems a right mess, but I can't make it out at all.

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It looks like a die crack (or several close together).


Could be - but what's coming down through the middle of upper loop is what looks like a vertical downstroke at a slight slant, with raised edges on either side. And at the base of the proper downstroke there appears to be something curving to the right and up, like the bottom of a B. What do you think?
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:32 PM

View PostPeckris, on 09 January 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

View PostNick, on 09 January 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

View PostPeckris, on 09 January 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

What do you make of the last R in BRITANNIAR on this 1821 sixpence? It seems a right mess, but I can't make it out at all.

Attachment 1821 sixpence obv detail.jpg

It looks like a die crack (or several close together).


Could be - but what's coming down through the middle of upper loop is what looks like a vertical downstroke at a slight slant, with raised edges on either side. And at the base of the proper downstroke there appears to be something curving to the right and up, like the bottom of a B. What do you think?

I think that the slanted vertical downstroke is connected to the "branches" of die cracking emanating from the rim, but I do see what you mean about the line curving upwards from the base of the R. Could be the remnants of another letter.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:49 PM

View PostPeckris, on 09 January 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

View PostNick, on 09 January 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

View PostPeckris, on 09 January 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

What do you make of the last R in BRITANNIAR on this 1821 sixpence? It seems a right mess, but I can't make it out at all.

Attachment 1821 sixpence obv detail.jpg

It looks like a die crack (or several close together).


Could be - but what's coming down through the middle of upper loop is what looks like a vertical downstroke at a slight slant, with raised edges on either side. And at the base of the proper downstroke there appears to be something curving to the right and up, like the bottom of a B. What do you think?


I can see what you are pointing out but it does not follow the shape of the other B. Does the slanted vertical have the same beaded infil as the other letters or am I seeing things?

I think it is another case of a cluster of die cracks...but........
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:48 PM

hi peckris......nice coin, the r looks a bit of a mess for whatever reason, im sure you experts will know for sure, my question....is the "B" of BRITANNIAR out of step with the rest of BRITANNIAR, if so is this normal?
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 10:05 PM

View Postski, on 09 January 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

hi peckris......nice coin, the r looks a bit of a mess for whatever reason, im sure you experts will know for sure, my question....is the "B" of BRITANNIAR out of step with the rest of BRITANNIAR, if so is this normal?


That's possible? But possibly quite normal for the period?

Thanks for the compliment - as it's a scan, the shimmering mirror fields have been totally killed; it's a far far better coin than it looks there.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 10:53 PM

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But possibly quite normal for the period?



ah okay :)
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