[PatrickCoin]

Undated doesn't count in this as it has been collected up by the royal mint

I think it is a 50p or a 2 pounds as they have lowly produced specails

[AardHawk]

For a coin that is currently in circulation then it is a 1988 £1 (Royal Shield) with a mintage of 7,118,825.

[scott]

nope, 2008 pounds are rarer in mintage.
rarest is the NI commonwealth games £2
485,500 mintage

[Chris Perkins]

And the undated 20p's are not, and have bever been collected back by the Royal Mint. They were purchased by a private company that like to sound as if they have some affiliation with the Royal Mint!!! I have to tell people this a lot. The Royal mint confirmed that they had made the mistake, but they had no interest in calling them in.

[PatrickCoin]

scott, on Dec 5 2009, 07:52 PM, said:

nope, 2008 pounds are rarer in mintage.
rarest is the NI commonwealth games £2
485,500 mintage

I told you it was a 50p or £2

[DaveG38]

I'm still having trouble finding and example of the dot to dot 1992 10 pence and the 20 pence of that year with the earlier (smaller) effigy. I am beginning to think that the only way will be to go to the bank and search through bags full of change to find them. They certainly don't turn up in the pocket!!

[Gary D]

I was going to say the 1983 2 new pence but as they were supposedly only put into sets I guess it doesn't really count.

[scott]

i have a dot to dot 1992 10p and 2 of the small head 1992 20p
80's-90's 20ps are hard to get nowadays


got this one a few months back, have to say i'm pleased lol

[AardHawk]

scott, on Dec 5 2009, 07:52 PM, said:

nope, 2008 pounds are rarer in mintage.
rarest is the NI commonwealth games £2
485,500 mintage

I wasn't listing varieties as the OP didn't ask about those, and as for the 2008 £1 then some thirty plus million of those have been produced. How many £5 coins have been produced as those are listed as circulation coinage.

[scott]

but those do count, there were 3,910,000 royal arms £1 in 2008 (thats the old type)
no £5 were made for circulation.
and the commonwealth games variertys were all issed for circulation so those stand

[Peckris]

Although strictly speaking they are not currency coins as they were displaced by the smaller versions, there are varieties of the large 10p pieces that make the 1992 varieties positively laughable. I'm talking REALLY rare. They were all documented by Ron Stafford in the 70s and 80s, and would make going through your large ten pences a worthwhile exercise. Or it would do, except that as with the 1992s, not many people are interested and there isn't any real market for 'em.

[scott]

there is that 2nd type of 2006 10p, though. but yea dont worry about those.. yet lol
would the 1992 small head 20 be a mule of sorts? using 1991 dyes instead of the updated?

[AardHawk]

scott, on Dec 6 2009, 07:21 PM, said:

but those do count, there were 3,910,000 royal arms £1 in 2008 (thats the old type)
no £5 were made for circulation.
and the commonwealth games variertys were all issed for circulation so those stand

I wasn't discussing varieties and according to the Royal Mint, £5 coins are legal tender.

[Jamesred]

[/quote]
I wasn't discussing varieties and according to the Royal Mint, £5 coins are legal tender.
[/quote]

So are Scottish bank notes!!!

[scott]

yes they are legal tender but they wern't minted for circulation and therfore you can judge rarity.
if you want to include £5 coins, this one is worth the most

whether there were less of these minted then any other coin though..

This post has been edited by scott: 07 December 2009 - 12:02 PM

[Chingford]

I wasn't discussing varieties and according to the Royal Mint, £5 coins are legal tender.
[/quote]

So are Scottish bank notes!!!
[/quote]


Only if both parties are in agreement as to using them to complete a transaction, you are not obliged to
take Northern Irish and Scottish notes, even though they are in Pounds Sterling.

http://www.bankofeng...out/faqs.htm#16


John

This post has been edited by Chingford: 07 December 2009 - 12:44 PM

[Chris Perkins]

scott, on Dec 7 2009, 01:02 PM, said:

Is that the Millenium one minted at the Dome? I've got 2 of those in packs that i'm hanging on to because of the dome mintmark......Has to be scarce.

[scott]

yes thats the dome on, in the packaging

[Chris Perkins]

Can't really call that (or any £5 coin) a circulation coin though. I wonder how many of those they made with the dome mintmark. Good one for me too, as my family come from around there and I lived in the London Borough of Greenwich.

[Sylvester]

Without looking I believe some of the old 50ps had fairly low mintages. 1985?

[scott]

i have a 1985 50p
only 682,103 of those minted but those are not in circulation anymore
but its still lower then the rarest commonwealth games £2
if you count old 50ps then the 109,000 1992 one would be it.

[Peckris]

scott, on Jan 1 2010, 08:25 PM, said:

i have a 1985 50p
only 682,103 of those minted but those are not in circulation anymore
but its still lower then the rarest commonwealth games £2
if you count old 50ps then the 109,000 1992 one would be it.

I have a 1985 set - I suppose the 50p is identical, yes?

[scott]

it should be

[Sylvester]

Peckris, on Jan 1 2010, 10:04 PM, said:

I have a 1985 set - I suppose the 50p is identical, yes?

I presume so. Of course I was just considering coins that could be found in circulation (excluding mint sets). If you did want to included mint set coins, then it's pretty obvious that years where coins were only issued in the mint sets are automatically scarcer. The 'silver' of the 1982, 1983, 1984 years and all the 10ps and 50ps from the 1986-1991 era.

Some individual coins that spring to mind;

1984 halfpennies
1986 20p
1992 2p bronze
1992 1p bronze
1993 10p
1993 5p
1999 pound
1999 10p


Also look out for bronze or copper plated steel versions of 1998 twopences (1999 proofs are bronze too).

[scott]

isnt 1992 20p rarer?
but i havn't seen any of thse recently.. got a 1992 penny with some luistre the other day... it stuck to magnet.. i got annoyed
i might have some 1993 5p's around somehwere.. i end up with many 5p

[Sylvester]

scott, on Jan 2 2010, 01:20 PM, said:

isnt 1992 20p rarer?
but i havn't seen any of thse recently.. got a 1992 penny with some luistre the other day... it stuck to magnet.. i got annoyed
i might have some 1993 5p's around somehwere.. i end up with many 5p

Sorry Scott, I should have said, of the list of coins I gave above those are all dates when those coins were NOT released into circulation, they ONLY exist in the mint sets (you may find an escapee in circulation if you're lucky).

My point was, if you want rarer modern issues (ignoring commemoratives like fivers etc.) then years where that denomination was only released in a mint set is a good place to start.

e.g

1992 20p (either variety)

total in mint sets + total in proof sets + total in circulation = total mintage


however;

1993 5p

total in mint sets + total in proof sets = total mintage


better still;

1974 5p

total in proof sets = total mintage

(because there were no mint sets and none released for circulation, so the mintage is very much smaller, comparatively speaking).

[Peckris]

Sylvester, on Jan 2 2010, 03:50 PM, said:

scott, on Jan 2 2010, 01:20 PM, said:

isnt 1992 20p rarer?
but i havn't seen any of thse recently.. got a 1992 penny with some luistre the other day... it stuck to magnet.. i got annoyed
i might have some 1993 5p's around somehwere.. i end up with many 5p

Sorry Scott, I should have said, of the list of coins I gave above those are all dates when those coins were NOT released into circulation, they ONLY exist in the mint sets (you may find an escapee in circulation if you're lucky).

My point was, if you want rarer modern issues (ignoring commemoratives like fivers etc.) then years where that denomination was only released in a mint set is a good place to start.

e.g

1992 20p (either variety)

total in mint sets + total in proof sets + total in circulation = total mintage


however;

1993 5p

total in mint sets + total in proof sets = total mintage


better still;

1974 5p

total in proof sets = total mintage

(because there were no mint sets and none released for circulation, so the mintage is very much smaller, comparatively speaking).

Or best of all : 1972, where ONLY coins with that date can be found from the proof sets (excluding the Silver Wedding "25p" bauble which never circulated).

[Sylvester]

Peckris, on Jan 2 2010, 10:59 PM, said:

Or best of all : 1972, where ONLY coins with that date can be found from the proof sets (excluding the Silver Wedding "25p" bauble which never circulated).

I toyed with putting 1972 but went against it, I always presumed (and maybe wrongly since i've never seen mintage figures and i'm thinking common sense here, which doesn't always prevail) that the 1972 proof sets would have been produced in greater quantity than other 70s proof sets (1970 excepted!) due to the fact that no 1972 coins were struck for circulation, thus more demand for the sets? Birthdays and whatnot... just a thought.

[Terry]

Hi,
Why we're on this subject can anyone say how many 1984 1/2p coins were minted?
Not sure if they went into circulation though.

Terry

[Peckris]

Sylvester, on 02 January 2010 - 11:39 PM, said:

I toyed with putting 1972 but went against it, I always presumed (and maybe wrongly since i've never seen mintage figures and i'm thinking common sense here, which doesn't always prevail) that the 1972 proof sets would have been produced in greater quantity than other 70s proof sets (1970 excepted!) due to the fact that no 1972 coins were struck for circulation, thus more demand for the sets? Birthdays and whatnot... just a thought.

No, I believe the 1972 set is lower mintage than 1971? The Mint generally reacted to demand, and while demand was very high for 1970 and 1971, it dropped later. But clearly it was still high enough to produce more year sets. Somewhere, I do know there are mintage figures - in fact, possibly in CCGB from before Chris took it over?

Terry, on 29 January 2010 - 10:51 AM, said:

Hi,
Why we're on this subject can anyone say how many 1984 1/2p coins were minted?
Not sure if they went into circulation though.

Terry

They didn't - they were only produced for the 1984 sets.

This post has been edited by Peckris: 29 January 2010 - 07:35 PM